<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items --> <!--X-From-R13: "Quevfgbcure Oyyra" <QuevfgbcureONfxbgbf.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 21:52:08 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 00b201bfa821$6d66bd20$03000004#asmrb,org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: B51FEE31.2971%koster#eden,com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:ChristopherA#skotos,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00321.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00323.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00311.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00314.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00322">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00322">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00322">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Christopher Allen" <<A HREF="mailto:ChristopherA#skotos,net">ChristopherA#skotos,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:59:58 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> From: "Kristen L. Koster" <koster#eden,com> wrote: > Christopher Allen wrote: > > I ask because we are seriously considering charging a one-time fee for what > > we call "the gift of fate". It would be different for different games, but > > the the idea would be that someone could get up to speed enough to > > participate in the community. > > Why not start all your players at that ability level if they truly can't > "participate in the community" until then? A good question, which I have a possible answer: When a game first opens, the level "average" players starts off low. As it grows and has been around for a while, that average is now higher, but does typically top off. The intent of the gift of fate is to allow someone that wishes to skip some of the effort to go from the beginning to low average. However, since other players had to work their way to low average, we can't just give new starting players the ability get their easier, and many people will want to earn it. However, for those that don't we may be able to charge for it. I know in my particular case, I feel like I paid my "dues" on UO, but my character no longer exists (I quit after getting frustrated by PvP.) I might consider paying extra to skip all the killing of rabbits and other newbie stuff. In particular as right now I don't have the time, nor would enjoy going through that again. In fact, my goal would not be to become a master, but to maybe participate with some role-playing now that Renaissance is coming online. In our games, we are attempting to fit the "gift of fate" into the game world. For instance, in Alvatia, the "gift of fate" might mean that you start with the skills of a trade (say blacksmithing or carpentry) and maybe a journeyman's guild license. This way you could start the game better able to directly participate with the economic system the game, with skills that are needed for the common good of the game, but not skills like sword and magic, etc. that are more prized by the higher characters in the game. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ .. Christopher Allen Skotos Tech Inc. .. .. 1512 Walnut St., Berkeley, CA 94709-1513 .. .. <<A HREF="http://www.Skotos.net">http://www.Skotos.net</A>> o510/649-4030 f510/649-4034 .. _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev mailing list MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00311" HREF="msg00311.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Kristen L. 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Koster <a href="mailto:koster#eden,com">koster#eden,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 03:21 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00322" HREF="msg00322.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Christopher Allen <a href="mailto:ChristopherA#skotos,net">ChristopherA#skotos,net</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 04:52 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00314" HREF="msg00314.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Ryan Palacio <a href="mailto:rpalacio#verant,com">rpalacio#verant,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 03:28 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00317" HREF="msg00317.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 04:51 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00320" HREF="msg00320.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 04:51 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00336" HREF="msg00336.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Raph Koster <a href="mailto:rkoster#austin,rr.com">rkoster#austin,rr.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 06:41 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>