<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: RE: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking --> <!--X-From-R13: "Epuhoreg, Rnzvba" <qfpuhoregNbevtva.rn.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:02:03 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 11A17AA2B9EAD111BCEA00A0C9B417930348C70C@molach.origin.ea.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, RE: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:dschubert@origin.ea.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00434.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00437.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00460.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00440.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00439">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00439">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00439">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>RE: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: "'<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>'" <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: RE: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Schubert, Damion" <<A HREF="mailto:dschubert#origin,ea.com">dschubert#origin,ea.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:48:44 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> -----Original Message----- From: Raph Koster [<A HREF="mailto:rkoster#austin,rr.com">mailto:rkoster#austin,rr.com</A>] >Damion Schubert once said to me, "I want a newbie to see the coolest thing >the game has to offer in the first session. Imagine if they saw a dragon and >helped kill it on the first day." (Very rough paraphrase here). He's dead >right. That first play session, before they make that decision to >emotionally invest in the game, needs to be awesome. Nutshell version: (a) If a player makes a friend the first day, he will log in the second day. If a player logs in the second day and his friend is there, he is very likely to stick around. (b) _Witnessing_ the death of a dragon has got to be more impressive than _killing_ giant rats with a newbie sword. Even if you're just the drummer boy. (c) Tutorials suck. They aren't effective. Most people want to skip them. They are usually easy to break. They are condenscending. A real person is a better teacher than a tutorial (most of the time). QED: Pairing up a newbie with a high level character is a good thing. The trick is to make the high level character want to have the newbie around. --Damion _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev mailing list MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00440" HREF="msg00440.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> <adam@treyarch.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00434.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00437.html">Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00460.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Game Law Example (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00440.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00439"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00439"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00470" HREF="msg00470.html">[MUD-Dev] Fun and Learning in games</A></strong>, Draymoor <a href="mailto:fibhufky@erols.com">fibhufky@erols.com</a>, Wed 19 Apr 2000, 18:55 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00479" HREF="msg00479.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Fun and Learning in games</A></strong>, Schubert, Damion <a href="mailto:dschubert@origin.ea.com">dschubert@origin.ea.com</a>, Wed 19 Apr 2000, 23:36 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00452" HREF="msg00452.html">[MUD-Dev] Game Law Example (fwd)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw@cp.net">claw@cp.net</a>, Wed 19 Apr 2000, 02:24 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00460" HREF="msg00460.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Game Law Example (fwd)</A></strong>, Travis S. Casey <a href="mailto:efindel@io.com">efindel@io.com</a>, Wed 19 Apr 2000, 18:55 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00439" HREF="msg00439.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</A></strong>, Schubert, Damion <a href="mailto:dschubert@origin.ea.com">dschubert@origin.ea.com</a>, Wed 19 Apr 2000, 00:02 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00440" HREF="msg00440.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</A></strong>, adam <a href="mailto:adam@treyarch.com">adam@treyarch.com</a>, Wed 19 Apr 2000, 00:36 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00442" HREF="msg00442.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</A></strong>, Christopher Allen <a href="mailto:ChristopherA@Skotos.net">ChristopherA@Skotos.net</a>, Wed 19 Apr 2000, 01:07 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00445" HREF="msg00445.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</A></strong>, adam <a href="mailto:adam@treyarch.com">adam@treyarch.com</a>, Wed 19 Apr 2000, 01:30 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00443" HREF="msg00443.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</A></strong>, jolson <a href="mailto:jolson@micron.net">jolson@micron.net</a>, Wed 19 Apr 2000, 01:07 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>