<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Simulating Ancient Greece WAS: Same-Sex Marriage --> <!--X-From-R13: [nggurj [vunyl <gur_ybtbfNnpunrn.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:10:25 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.LNX.4.10.10004110559000.21251-100000#achaea,mudservices.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 004401bfa374$6ea7fca0$020101df@JonLambert --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Simulating Ancient Greece WAS: Same-Sex Marriag</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00151.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00153.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00150.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00140.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00152">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00152">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00152">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Simulating Ancient Greece WAS: Same-Sex Marriage</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: Mud-Dev <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Simulating Ancient Greece WAS: Same-Sex Marriage</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly <<A HREF="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 06:06:06 +0000 (GMT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Jon Lambert wrote: > Yes, but that is by and large a very broad brush. Certainly women were in > most times and places considered to be 'property' themselves. The notion that > property can hold property is a rather ridiculous one. :-P Well, considering that all property is is an arbitrary claim by an entity over something else, not really. If the property that is doing the holding can enforce, or have enforced by another party, its claim, then it can be said to own it just as surely as anyone owns 'his' house (which, after all, consists of nothing more than a combination of cultural acceptance of the idea of ownership, and enforcement via the military and police.) > And besides, I think the Xena role and appeal is peculiarly a male fantasy. ;-) > I know TONS of women that love Xena. Most of them are gay or bi, as it so happens. > 20% of 97% is always larger than 80% of 3%. The bottom line (for me) is > that they are irrelevant. They neither add or subtract value from any general > game simply by virtue of their particular perversion, though they may be at > pains to make it a point that they do. There are some games in which they > are the desired target audience. They just aren't worth my time and effort > to cater to. OTOH I have a pretty good understanding of the other. > Everyone's mileage can and will vary. The gay demographic is the second wealthiest demographic in the US, after the Jewish one (or so I've read in multiple places). That alone, and the fact that 3% of 6 billion is a massive number, makes it worth targetting. No mud gets any significant portion of the internet to use it, and all target niche audiences. We target, for instance, people who have disposeable cash, as opposed to the Quake kiddies. Small percentage of the small mudding population. Quite lucrative. Never underestimate niches. Media empires get built on collections of them. --matt _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev mailing list MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00150" HREF="msg00150.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Simulating Ancient Greece WAS: Same-Sex Marriage</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Jon Lambert" <jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00151.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Family, was characters per account</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00153.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Trouble Makers or Regular Citizens</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00150.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Simulating Ancient Greece WAS: Same-Sex Marriage</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00140.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Family, was characters per account</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00152"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00152"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00149" HREF="msg00149.html">Gender Restrictions was Re: [MUD-Dev] Same-Sex Marriage</A></strong>, Jon Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 11 Apr 2000, 05:25 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00150" HREF="msg00150.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Simulating Ancient Greece WAS: Same-Sex Marriage</A></strong>, Jon Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 11 Apr 2000, 05:25 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00152" HREF="msg00152.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Simulating Ancient Greece WAS: Same-Sex Marriage</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Tue 11 Apr 2000, 06:10 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00140" HREF="msg00140.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Family, was characters per account</A></strong>, Daniel James <a href="mailto:dan#sensei,co.uk">dan#sensei,co.uk</a>, Mon 10 Apr 2000, 23:36 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00145" HREF="msg00145.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Family, was characters per account</A></strong>, Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services <a href="mailto:Paul.Schwanz#east,sun.com">Paul.Schwanz#east,sun.com</a>, Tue 11 Apr 2000, 04:12 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00148" HREF="msg00148.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Family, was characters per account</A></strong>, Kevin Littlejohn <a href="mailto:darius#connect,com.au">darius#connect,com.au</a>, Tue 11 Apr 2000, 05:08 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00151" HREF="msg00151.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Family, was characters per account</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Tue 11 Apr 2000, 06:06 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>