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MacDougall" <<A HREF="mailto:geoffrey#poptronik,com">geoffrey#poptronik,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:32:50 -0400</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Paul said: > Geoffrey said: > > If we buy the argument that rights in the vw can never be more than > > favours granted the players by the Creator, then you raise an > > interesting point. Would it not be a more successful > exercise to use > > the theory of divine (as opposed to natural) rights when trying to > > formulate a Declaration of the Rights of Avatars? > > Since the vw is not merely co-existent to the rw, but rather > a subset of it, the > divine right of the creator of the vw would be subject to > whatever natural or > divine rights exist in the rw. Doesn't this bring us right > back to the OOC > issues which inspired Raph's original post, since divine > rights are IC, but > Divine and Natural Rights are OOC? :-) > Cool twist - but I have to pose a question back at you... While the nuts and bolts of the vw are a subset of the rw, are not the emotional/mental imaginings/reactions of the vw's inhabitants on par in their severity as the imaginings/reactions of rw inhabitants to their own, unique stimuli? And if so, is the vw a true subset of the rw, or a separate reality formed by the same bricks and mortar - and therefore capable of sustaining its own set of rights - which are purely political (therefore mental) abstractions? G. _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev mailing list MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00416.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00410.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00409.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00415.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00423"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00423"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00318" HREF="msg00318.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>, Jon Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 04:52 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00359" HREF="msg00359.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>, Geoffrey A. MacDougall <a href="mailto:geoffrey#poptronik,com">geoffrey#poptronik,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 16:22 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00381" HREF="msg00381.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>, Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services <a href="mailto:Paul.Schwanz#east,sun.com">Paul.Schwanz#east,sun.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 20:17 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00409" HREF="msg00409.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>, Geoffrey A. MacDougall <a href="mailto:geoffrey#poptronik,com">geoffrey#poptronik,com</a>, Tue 18 Apr 2000, 19:48 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00423" HREF="msg00423.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>, Geoffrey A. MacDougall <a href="mailto:geoffrey#poptronik,com">geoffrey#poptronik,com</a>, Tue 18 Apr 2000, 19:48 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00415" HREF="msg00415.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>, Jon Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 18 Apr 2000, 19:48 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00418" HREF="msg00418.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>, Geoffrey A. MacDougall <a href="mailto:geoffrey#poptronik,com">geoffrey#poptronik,com</a>, Tue 18 Apr 2000, 19:49 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00270" HREF="msg00270.html">[MUD-Dev] Quoting.</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sat 15 Apr 2000, 05:38 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00269" HREF="msg00269.html">[MUD-Dev] meets</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Sat 15 Apr 2000, 05:11 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>