<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items --> <!--X-From-R13: "Dlna Bnynpvb" <ecnynpvbNirenag.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:28:32 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 0e9001bfa819$84d89b20$ba9713ce#verant,com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.4.10.10004160925351.24168-100000#achaea,mudservices.com --> <!--X-Reference: 0e4f01bfa7e8$f3312a00$ba9713ce#verant,com --> <!--X-Reference: 00b901bfa7f7$67b8fac0$5903073e@maerista --> <!--X-Reference: 007c01bfa808$eb0a78c0$03000004#asmrb,org --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:rpalacio#verant,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00312.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00313.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00322.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00317.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00314">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00314">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00314">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Ryan Palacio" <<A HREF="mailto:rpalacio#verant,com">rpalacio#verant,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:03:34 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Christopher Allen wrote: > I ask because we are seriously considering charging a one-time fee for what > we call "the gift of fate". It would be different for different games, but > the the idea would be that someone could get up to speed enough to > participate in the community. I think the exact opposite will happen. Despite being "twinked" perse, the user is still a newbie. Newbie by definition does not understand his/her environment or how to act accordingly with any established in-game society. This cannot be learned via purchase - only time. Those that are twinked (as mentioned before) tend to be the butt of jokes. Typically they are not socially accepted. People taking time to adventure and level together is what bonds community. Not mere character status. How can one contribue if one is ostracized and ridiculed? How can one contribue if one can hardly find their way around town? How can one contribute if what was accomplishable in effectively a handful of hours of play time (ie "by a low level player") needed to be purchased? If on the other hand you are looking at those starting a second (or later) character, you might get a few bites; but those that have played before (in a twinkable environment) will just have their already established fellowships twink them and save a few dollars. Besides, if items have a significant worth in your game, they will just transfer higher level equipment over and accelerate themselves up the proverbial ladder of success. Just my 2 copper... ~Ryan Palacio _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev mailing list MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00286" HREF="msg00286.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Matthew Mihaly <the_logos#achaea,com></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00297" HREF="msg00297.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Ryan Palacio" <rpalacio#verant,com></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00300" HREF="msg00300.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Tess Lowe" <tess#havensong,com></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00308" HREF="msg00308.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Christopher Allen" <ChristopherA#skotos,net></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00312.html">[MUD-Dev] Scott Guzman on RGM.Admin</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00313.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00322.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00317.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00314"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00314"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00315" HREF="msg00315.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 04:51 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00308" HREF="msg00308.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Christopher Allen <a href="mailto:ChristopherA#skotos,net">ChristopherA#skotos,net</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 02:39 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00311" HREF="msg00311.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Kristen L. Koster <a href="mailto:koster#eden,com">koster#eden,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 03:21 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00322" HREF="msg00322.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Christopher Allen <a href="mailto:ChristopherA#skotos,net">ChristopherA#skotos,net</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 04:52 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00314" HREF="msg00314.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Ryan Palacio <a href="mailto:rpalacio#verant,com">rpalacio#verant,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 03:28 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00317" HREF="msg00317.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 04:51 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00320" HREF="msg00320.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 04:51 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00336" HREF="msg00336.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Raph Koster <a href="mailto:rkoster#austin,rr.com">rkoster#austin,rr.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 06:41 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00293" HREF="msg00293.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Par Winzell <a href="mailto:zell#alyx,com">zell#alyx,com</a>, Sun 16 Apr 2000, 22:29 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>