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<LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly <<A HREF="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:23:57 +0000 (GMT)</LI>
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On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, Eli Stevens wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raph Koster" <rkoster#austin,rr.com>
> To: <mud-dev#kanga,nu>
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 1:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [MUD-Dev] Quests
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> > I've always considered the events run on Achaea to be a model for how it
> > should be done, but I don't know how much time investment is required.
> > Asheron's Call is doing something similar, and they tell me that it IS a
> > huge amount of effort to carry off one large-scale, non-repeating,
> > consequential event every month.
>
> I am not very familiar with Achaea's system, is there a post in the archives
> that details it?
I don't think there is. It's not really a system either. The whole point
is to make it as un-systematic (in the eyes of the players) as possible so
that it doesn't seem repetitive. Much easier to say than do, sadly. I'm
not really sure I fully agree with Raph's compliment, but I'm willing to
accept it.
>
> > But how to do that? I don't know. I can write ONE. But it would take a lot
> > more time to write it than to play it. I can see a way to do them
> > periodically, with a largish staff, to a lesser level of complexity. I
> don't
> > know how to weave it into the fabric of the world. Anyone?
>
> Hmm. This is something I had been thinking about a while back, and I have a
> different tack on the branching/coming back together plot you mentioned. It
> is just a rough idea, but... It seems to me that the purpose of quests are
> to give players something interesting to do, right? I imagine that the idea
> started when someone said, "you know, killing mobs over and over is kind of
> boring." So quests break the monotony of a static gameworld. If the
> gameworld was non-static, would you need quests (as typically implemented)?
<example of political systems generating conflict snipped>
This is an area that I know well. Conflict between organizations, provided
your game supports them sufficiently, definitely adds a lot to a game. It
is still not a substitute for one-time quests, unfortunately. One-time
quests simply allow a degree of creativity and freedom and _uniqueness_
that so far as not been duplicated by coded, long-lasting systems, to my
knowledge.
--matt
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00280" HREF="msg00280.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Quests</A></strong>,
Raph Koster <a href="mailto:rkoster#austin,rr.com">rkoster#austin,rr.com</a>, Sun 16 Apr 2000, 06:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00288" HREF="msg00288.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Quests</A></strong>,
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Sun 16 Apr 2000, 15:58 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00289" HREF="msg00289.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quests</A></strong>,
Erik Jarvi <a href="mailto:ejarvi#megsinet,net">ejarvi#megsinet,net</a>, Sun 16 Apr 2000, 15:59 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00284" HREF="msg00284.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quests</A></strong>,
Eli Stevens <a href="mailto:wickedgrey#wickedgrey,com">wickedgrey#wickedgrey,com</a>, Sun 16 Apr 2000, 15:59 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00299" HREF="msg00299.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quests</A></strong>,
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Sun 16 Apr 2000, 22:39 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00332" HREF="msg00332.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quests</A></strong>,
Madrona Tree <a href="mailto:madronatree#hotmail,com">madronatree#hotmail,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 05:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00335" HREF="msg00335.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Quests</A></strong>,
Raph Koster <a href="mailto:rkoster#austin,rr.com">rkoster#austin,rr.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 06:40 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00274" HREF="msg00274.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Spawning and quests (was Sony ban)</A></strong>,
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Sat 15 Apr 2000, 17:21 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00241" HREF="msg00241.html">Institutionalizing human behavior (was RE: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items)</A></strong>,
Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Fri 14 Apr 2000, 02:51 GMT
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