<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition ! --> <!--X-From-R13: "Xba Znzoreg" <wyflfvapNvk.argpbz.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 18:41:49 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 00b601bf9e9d$e16af340$020101df@JonLambert --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jlsysinc@ix.netcom.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00052.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00054.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00051.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00120.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00053">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00053">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00053">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Jon Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 21:25:38 -0400</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Warren Powell wrote: >Jon A. Lambert replied: >> >> Well spaces, tabs and comments don't count towards the limit. >> Yes, you could also get some mileage out of obfuscating keywords and >> system functions with macros. You could move all your locals >> into global >> space, drop all static references, and share them very carefully. >> > >One problem that I see in using these methods is that the rules state that >the judging takes into account such things as readability, extensibility and >that the code must be bug free. Putting all of your locals into a global >space would (IMHO) seriously hamper any future extensions without huge >rewrites and open the door for some huge bug finding sessions. > You are quite right. Maintainability is only one of five categories. Total source obfuscation is a calculation to sacrifice that category for a potential gain in points in at least three other categories. I'm minmaxing. ;-) -snip from <A HREF="http://www.andreasen.org/16k.shtml">http://www.andreasen.org/16k.shtml</A> - Each judge secretly assigns each contestant a score between 1 in 10 in several categories. The currently suggested categories are: Features -- what can the MUD do? Is there combat, OLC, do players save? Maintainability -- could anyone but the author understand the source code? What are the expansion possibilities of the MUD? Technology -- what cool features does the implementation have? How efficient is it in memory and CPU usage? (Not sure about this category) Stability -- does everything work as expected, does the MUD ever crash, are there any bugs? Fun -- is the MUD actually fun to play? --unsnip-- -- --* Jon A. Lambert - TychoMUD Email: jlsysinc#nospam,ix.netcom.com *-- --* Mud Server Developer's Page <<A HREF="http://jlsysinc.home.netcom.com">http://jlsysinc.home.netcom.com</A>> *-- --* "No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." 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Casey <a href="mailto:efindel@io.com">efindel@io.com</a>, Mon 10 Apr 2000, 21:45 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>