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<LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly <<A HREF="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:57:22 +0000 (GMT)</LI>
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Par Winzell wrote:
> Matthew Mihaly writes:
> > On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, Par Winzell wrote:
> > > Achaea fascinates me because it combines the commercial setting with an
> > > administration style much like this. This gives me hope. Does it scale?
> >
> > Hmm, well, I think that it DOES scale, because as much as they pretend
> > otherwise, this is just how the big MMORPGs operate. To me, all the talk
> > of empowering the users is just a PR job. The admins have the power, end
> > of story.
>
> Undoubtedly what you say about the PR job is true, however, I do not think
> any of the existing massive games constitute proofs that your principle is
> well-behaved when scaled. The admins certainly do have the power, but there
> is not nearly the same sense of proximity to them. Greek myths work because
> the damn Gods won't stay out of people's business. In a mud with a thousand
> online players, with five thousand, how do you keep that same feeling?
Our God system is not scalable to EQ's level I believe. It works well on
s small scale, but tt requires too much work to keep the Gods in line,
while maintaining thier interest in the game. But, I really wasn't
referring to our God system. The users don't have power in EQ either. The
power is completely in the hands of the admins and the coding team, etc. I
am not overly-familiar with EQs methods of doing things, but I seriously
doubt that they let the users decide just what is going to be in each
update, for instance.
--matt
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00295" HREF="msg00295.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>,
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Sun 16 Apr 2000, 22:29 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00306" HREF="msg00306.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00319" HREF="msg00319.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>,
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 04:51 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00355" HREF="msg00355.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00373" HREF="msg00373.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>,
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 20:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00342" HREF="msg00342.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>,
Raph Koster <a href="mailto:rkoster#austin,rr.com">rkoster#austin,rr.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 06:42 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00366" HREF="msg00366.html">[MUD-Dev] AI, Bots, Scripting.</A></strong>,
Veygoth <a href="mailto:veygoth#stax,net">veygoth#stax,net</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 16:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00379" HREF="msg00379.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] AI, Bots, Scripting.</A></strong>,
David Bennett <a href="mailto:ddt#discworld,imaginary.com">ddt#discworld,imaginary.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 20:17 GMT
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