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<LI><em>Subject</em>: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Travis Casey <<A HREF="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:37:58 -0400</LI>
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On Monday, April 03, 2000, Jon A. Lambert wrote:
> Chris Gray wrote:
>>Wow, that's not much space! I took a quick look at ToyMUD, to see if there
>>was any chance of doing simple changes to shrink it down. However, it
>>is 80K of code and 26K in the data file. I doubt I could shrink it to
>>16K without losing some major feature or two. The first step would be
>>one of those code obfuscators that removes whitespace and makes all
>>identifiers one or two characters.
> Well spaces, tabs and comments don't count towards the limit.
> Yes, you could also get some mileage out of obfuscating keywords and
> system functions with macros. You could move all your locals into global
> space, drop all static references, and share them very carefully.
My own thought is to use Forth -- since it's a stack-based language,
there'd be far fewer variables to name. Plus, Forth syntax is
remarkably compact -- especially once you remove the whitespace.
(That whitespace removal seems like it would give an advantage to
people using some languages -- those where whitespace is significant.
Or, at least, a lot more significant than in C and the like.)
I doubt I'll give it a try, though -- with work, a wife, and a
toddler, one month probably isn't enough time for me to write anything
that actually works without giving up doing anything else in the
little free time I have.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00026" HREF="msg00026.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</A></strong>,
cg <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Tue 04 Apr 2000, 02:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00028" HREF="msg00028.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 04 Apr 2000, 05:29 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00034" HREF="msg00034.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</A></strong>,
Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#slimy,com">jleonard#slimy,com</a>, Tue 04 Apr 2000, 16:11 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00049" HREF="msg00049.html">Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</A></strong>,
Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Wed 05 Apr 2000, 00:42 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00029" HREF="msg00029.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</A></strong>,
Cynbe ru Taren <a href="mailto:cynbe#muq,org">cynbe#muq,org</a>, Tue 04 Apr 2000, 05:30 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00031" HREF="msg00031.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</A></strong>,
Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</a>, Tue 04 Apr 2000, 16:11 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00043" HREF="msg00043.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</A></strong>,
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