<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items --> <!--X-From-R13: Bnhy Epujnam - Sagrecevfr Ereivprf <Bnhy.EpujnamNrnfg.fha.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:46:16 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 200004171426.KAA16681#hutch,East.Sun.COM --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:Paul.Schwanz#east,sun.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00368.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00370.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00371.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00374.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00369">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00369">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00369">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services <<A HREF="mailto:Paul.Schwanz#east,sun.com">Paul.Schwanz#east,sun.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:25:28 -0400 (EDT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> > Tess Lowe writes: > > If this were true, then I would agree with your entire point of view on this > > thread, but surely you must accept that people do *not* have the same amount > > of time to spend on a game any more than they have the same amount of money > > to spend on a game. > Par responds: > I'll never understand this argument. The difference is enormous. Time is > the ultimate resource, the great equalizer, the one that humans have in > common. When you spend an evening in a group to clean out the orc caves, > the simple fact of the shared time is what bonds you to these people. > > This is how friendship works. Writing somebody a cheque does _not_ have > the same effect. > I'm sure many differences can be found between money and time as resources. However, I agree with Tess that the scarce nature of both is a similarity and not a difference. The issue is not time, but rather expendable time. Similarly, the issue is not money, but rather expendable money. As someone else already pointed out, kids tend to have less money than adults, but their money is often more expendable. In the same way, while everyone is given the same twenty-four hour day, some, because of other commitments have much less expendable time than others. If this were not the case, we would not need to think twice about ways to get the "casual" gamer to buy our products. Perhaps I am wrong in this, but it is my thought that the "casual" gamer is in most cases simply a gamer that has less expendable time. It isn't that they wouldn't like to spend more time in the game, it is simply that they have other commitments. However, far from advocating the sale of items or resources, I'd like to see time equalized in other ways (such as character persistence as discussed in another thread). If some were not more equal than others (i.e. not really equal) in expendable time, perhaps this would have the desired effect of cutting down on the sale of items (especially those which require a big time investment to aquire). IMHO, many are frustrated by their lack of expendable time and the resulting shame in a time-intesive level-quest style of game...perhaps to the point of feeling barred from participating in the game. Instead of concentrating on taking from them their only method for reaching a semblance of equality with other characters, why not give them more time? --Phinehas ----------------------------------------------------------------- Paul E. Schwanz, II Email: paul.schwanz#east,sun.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev mailing list MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00374" HREF="msg00374.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> "Tess Lowe" <tess#havensong,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00368.html">[MUD-Dev] Alignment</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00370.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] DDoS</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00371.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00374.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00369"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00369"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00350" HREF="msg00350.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Ananda Dawnsinger <a href="mailto:ananda#greyrealms,com">ananda#greyrealms,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 16:21 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00383" HREF="msg00383.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 20:17 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00364" HREF="msg00364.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services <a href="mailto:Paul.Schwanz#east,sun.com">Paul.Schwanz#east,sun.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 16:22 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00371" HREF="msg00371.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Ryan Palacio <a href="mailto:rpalacio#verant,com">rpalacio#verant,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 20:17 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00369" HREF="msg00369.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services <a href="mailto:Paul.Schwanz#east,sun.com">Paul.Schwanz#east,sun.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 16:46 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00374" HREF="msg00374.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Tess Lowe <a href="mailto:tess#havensong,com">tess#havensong,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 20:17 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00380" HREF="msg00380.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>, Schubert, Damion <a href="mailto:dschubert#origin,ea.com">dschubert#origin,ea.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 20:17 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00187" HREF="msg00187.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></strong>, Ryan Palacio <a href="mailto:rpalacio#verant,com">rpalacio#verant,com</a>, Tue 11 Apr 2000, 23:22 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00193" HREF="msg00193.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></strong>, maddog <a href="mailto:maddog#best,com">maddog#best,com</a>, Wed 12 Apr 2000, 01:24 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>