<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Quote from a Simutronics developer --> <!--X-From-R13: "Dlna Bnynpvb" <ecnynpvbNirenag.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:53:23 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 108a01bfa8b1$5bbaa6a0$ba9713ce@verant.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: NDBBLCGJMLFJLCDOFPLMEENECHAA.rkoster@austin.rr.com --> <!--X-Reference: 20000417150448.A4654@megsinet.net --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Quote from a Simutronics developer</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:rpalacio@verant.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00394.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00396.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00386.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00506.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00395">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00395">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00395">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Quote from a Simutronics developer</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Quote from a Simutronics developer</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Ryan Palacio" <<A HREF="mailto:rpalacio#verant,com">rpalacio#verant,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:10:28 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Erik Jarvi wrote: > Combat and political/economic games are not mutually exclusive. > > I'd even say to be a successful political/economic game you _have_ to have combat. > Think assassinations, blackmail, any type of crime. We thrive on crime. It creates > ALOT of tension, and player involvement. > > Years ago, while Mud hopping, I played this one Mud, I don't even remeber it's > name, that had this asshole PKer on it. He was almost always IC on a HnS Mud. He > would constantly PK players around his level and higher. Everyone on the Mud had > a focus point to direct their "hate". He would taunt lowbies, but never PK them. > Well it turns out he was a friend of one of the admins, and was asked to play this > role. I thought it was great, others didn't. But it was a way to direct players > activities, like quests. :) Candid interjection here: Actually, socially corrupt societies where bribery, assasination, crime, etc are the norm seems to be the best environment to incorporate "pay-for-perqs" and political/economic games. Just last night while contemplating the "pay-for-perqs" and "premium services" idea, Empire of the Petal Throne came to mind as an excellent candidate for an environment and system that incorporates alot of these aspects in a manner that is considered "the norm". ~Ryan Palacio _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev mailing list MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00506" HREF="msg00506.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quote from a Simutronics developer</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Erik Jarvi <ejarvi@megsinet.net></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00321" HREF="msg00321.html">[MUD-Dev] Quote from a Simutronics developer</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Raph Koster" <rkoster@austin.rr.com></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00386" HREF="msg00386.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quote from a Simutronics developer</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Erik Jarvi <ejarvi@megsinet.net></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00394.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Spawning and quests (was Sony ban)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00396.html">[MUD-Dev] The scalability of paying for in-game things</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00386.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quote from a Simutronics developer</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00506.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quote from a Simutronics developer</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00395"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00395"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>RE: [MUD-Dev] Quests</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00372" HREF="msg00372.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Quests</A></strong>, Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers@maxis.com">MSellers@maxis.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 20:16 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00376" HREF="msg00376.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quests</A></strong>, Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services <a href="mailto:Paul.Schwanz@east.sun.com">Paul.Schwanz@east.sun.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 20:17 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00321" HREF="msg00321.html">[MUD-Dev] Quote from a Simutronics developer</A></strong>, Raph Koster <a href="mailto:rkoster@austin.rr.com">rkoster@austin.rr.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 04:52 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00386" HREF="msg00386.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quote from a Simutronics developer</A></strong>, Erik Jarvi <a href="mailto:ejarvi@megsinet.net">ejarvi@megsinet.net</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 20:17 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00395" HREF="msg00395.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quote from a Simutronics developer</A></strong>, Ryan Palacio <a href="mailto:rpalacio@verant.com">rpalacio@verant.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 21:53 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00506" HREF="msg00506.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quote from a Simutronics developer</A></strong>, Erik Jarvi <a href="mailto:ejarvi@megsinet.net">ejarvi@megsinet.net</a>, Sat 22 Apr 2000, 04:13 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00397" HREF="msg00397.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quote from a Simutronics developer</A></strong>, Phillip Lenhardt <a href="mailto:philen@monkey.org">philen@monkey.org</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 22:06 GMT </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00362" HREF="msg00362.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Quote from a Simutronics developer</A></strong>, Ananda Dawnsinger <a href="mailto:ananda@greyrealms.com">ananda@greyrealms.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 16:22 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00471" HREF="msg00471.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Quote from a Simutronics developer</A></strong>, Raph Koster <a href="mailto:rkoster@austin.rr.com">rkoster@austin.rr.com</a>, Wed 19 Apr 2000, 18:55 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>