<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popu lar gaming sites --> <!--X-From-R13: znqqbtNorfg.pbz --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:03:56 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 200004120131.SAA25360#shell9,ba.best.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: A538153C8E25D11192FA00805F15959502612A5A@JETHRO --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its p</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:maddog#best,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00194.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00195.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00191.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00217.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00197">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00197">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00197">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popu lar gaming sites</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popu lar gaming sites</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:maddog#best,com">maddog#best,com</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:31:02 -0700 (PDT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Sellers, Michael wrote: > > I strongly suspect there are a variety of more subtle/less draconian (and at > least as effective) solutions to this "problem" of people buying and selling > in-game assets on EBay. It will be interesting to see how this policy plays > out however, and whether Sony has any actual legal legs to stand on in > trying to remove online auction sites from the picture. > Yes, Mike there are better solutions. As for the IP issue, this has to be the weakest argument that I have ever heard. No property ever gets transferred or transformed. There is no reverse engineering, no derivative works, no copying and reselling. It is just items in a large database. It's like saying everyone can buy the same book, but people have access to only certain pages (items). Accessing the pages is an IP violation. Well I have been wrong before on IP issues, but this one really baffles me. Looks like TSR again, in a different body. frank _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev mailing list MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00217" HREF="msg00217.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Matthew Mihaly <the_logos#achaea,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00191" HREF="msg00191.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Sellers, Michael" <MSellers#maxis,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00194.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00195.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Family, was characters per account</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00191.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00217.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00197"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00197"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00212" HREF="msg00212.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></strong>, Frank Crowell <a href="mailto:maddog#maddog,com">maddog#maddog,com</a>, Wed 12 Apr 2000, 05:50 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00201" HREF="msg00201.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></strong>, Ryan Palacio <a href="mailto:rpalacio#verant,com">rpalacio#verant,com</a>, Wed 12 Apr 2000, 04:05 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00202" HREF="msg00202.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Wed 12 Apr 2000, 04:36 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00191" HREF="msg00191.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></strong>, Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Wed 12 Apr 2000, 01:09 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00197" HREF="msg00197.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popu lar gaming sites</A></strong>, maddog <a href="mailto:maddog#best,com">maddog#best,com</a>, Wed 12 Apr 2000, 04:03 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00217" HREF="msg00217.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Wed 12 Apr 2000, 07:07 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00199" HREF="msg00199.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></strong>, Ryan Palacio <a href="mailto:rpalacio#verant,com">rpalacio#verant,com</a>, Wed 12 Apr 2000, 04:05 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00194" HREF="msg00194.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></strong>, Travis Nixon <a href="mailto:tnixon#avalanchesoftware,com">tnixon#avalanchesoftware,com</a>, Wed 12 Apr 2000, 04:03 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00176" HREF="msg00176.html">[MUD-Dev] DGD Description</A></strong>, Christopher Allen <a href="mailto:ChristopherA#Skotos,net">ChristopherA#Skotos,net</a>, Tue 11 Apr 2000, 21:26 GMT </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>