<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Trouble Makers or Regular Citizens --> <!--X-From-R13: Uhaane Yervgm <thaanexNpuryyb.fr> --> <!--X-Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 07:30:17 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 20000401140229.A10533#chello,se --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 025901bf98fd$47fa5840$5bd172cf@SPAWN2000 --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.BSF.4.21.0003311550160.2794-100000#vespa,orem.iserver.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Trouble Makers or Regular Citizens</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:gunnark#chello,se"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00001.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00001.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00030.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00000">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00000">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00000">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Trouble Makers or Regular Citizens</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Trouble Makers or Regular Citizens</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Gunnar Kreitz <<A HREF="mailto:gunnark#chello,se">gunnark#chello,se</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 14:02:29 +0200</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 04:06:13PM -0700, Fred Clift wrote: > I'm almost to the point of turning on Character Approval though. A > character named HugePenis logged in and started spamming public channels > with crude language. Disconnection didn't help. Deletion didn't > help. What did help was deletion and banning his IP for new character > creation. This can be remedied by putting restrictions on new players. Give them some rather severe restrictions on how quickly they can write stuff on public channels and if you want, ban some bad words. Then put up some in-game goal which takes about an hour or so to reach to remove these restrictions. On a level-based system, level 2 (provided you start on level 1) might be a good point. This should be enough to get rid of most of the create-a-new-char-for-a-quick-spam problems. > Which answers someone elses question I saw earlier. What kind of > mechanical things can be done instead of a ban, since bans have bad > side-effects? Well, we can ban particular characters, ban an IP, ban an > IP for new character creation or ban an IP for all but a specific set of > characters etc. > > Polite email to us saying, my site is banned for new character creation, > but I'd love to play, will usually result in us creating a character of > the race and class they'd like and then presto, they can play. Yes, it > takes human intervention, but it's way better than them not getting in at > all. When a site is banned, a polite note is sent to the user trying to > connect explaining the type of ban and how to get in touch with us if they > want to appeal, etc. This can be automated. Have two types of bans when it comes to character- creation, manual and automatic where manual works like the thing above. A personal, polite e-mail will get you an account then. Also add a list of e-mail addresses of known troublemakers. Automatic e-mail creation might work something like: FooMud, what's your name: Boffo I'm sorry Boffo, your domain has been banned from creating new characters without an automatic e-mail registration. Please enter a working e-mail adress to which I can send you a code which will enable you to create the character Boffo. This will be done automatically, and the e-mail should arrive within five minutes. If you have already done so, then please enter the code you received instead: boffo_32532#hotmail,com I'm sorry Boffo, hotmail.com has been blocked from e-mail registration. Try again: troublemaker#bad,com I'm sorry Boffo, troublemaker#bad,com has been blocked from e-mail registration. Try again: already#taken,com I'm sorry Boffo, we have a player with that e-mail already and we don't allow multiplaying. Try again: foobar#good,com Thank you, the code is being sent to you now, hope to see you soon. [Send him a code. I prefer a MD5 of (his username + e-mail address + some random data)] Now with this code, people from a "lightly banned" IP can create characters quickly and you get a valid e-mail to track them by. E-mails at free mail-providers (Hotmail etc.) should be blocked from doing this, since it would be easily circumvented by creating a new account otherwise. Except for such addresses, most people have a rather small set of addresses they can receive mail to. -- Gunnar Kreitz <gunnark#chello,se> _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev mailing list MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00001.html">[MUD-Dev] [Open_Gaming_Moderated] Simplified License for Comment and Critique (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00001.html">[MUD-Dev] [Open_Gaming_Moderated] Simplified License for Comment and Critique (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00030.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Trouble Makers or Regular Citizens</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00000"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00000"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00002" HREF="msg00002.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Richard Garriot's 'X' project</A></strong>, AR Schleicher <a href="mailto:ars#iag,net">ars#iag,net</a>, Sun 02 Apr 2000, 00:49 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00006" HREF="msg00006.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Richard Garriot's 'X' project</A></strong>, Brian Green <a href="mailto:brian#psychochild,org">brian#psychochild,org</a>, Sun 02 Apr 2000, 14:54 GMT </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00005" HREF="msg00005.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Richard Garriot's 'X' project</A></strong>, Jeff Freeman <a href="mailto:SkeptAck#antisocial,com">SkeptAck#antisocial,com</a>, Sun 02 Apr 2000, 06:33 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00001" HREF="msg00001.html">[MUD-Dev] [Open_Gaming_Moderated] Simplified License for Comment and Critique (fwd)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sat 01 Apr 2000, 18:28 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00000" HREF="msg00000.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Trouble Makers or Regular Citizens</A></strong>, Gunnar Kreitz <a href="mailto:gunnark#chello,se">gunnark#chello,se</a>, Sat 01 Apr 2000, 15:30 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00030" HREF="msg00030.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Trouble Makers or Regular Citizens</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 04 Apr 2000, 16:11 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00035" HREF="msg00035.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Trouble Makers or Regular Citizens</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 04 Apr 2000, 16:11 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00036" HREF="msg00036.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Trouble Makers or Regular Citizens</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 04 Apr 2000, 16:11 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>