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<LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly <<A HREF="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:02:31 +0000 (GMT)</LI>
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 maddog#best,com wrote:
> Sellers, Michael wrote:
> >
> > I strongly suspect there are a variety of more subtle/less draconian (and at
> > least as effective) solutions to this "problem" of people buying and selling
> > in-game assets on EBay. It will be interesting to see how this policy plays
> > out however, and whether Sony has any actual legal legs to stand on in
> > trying to remove online auction sites from the picture.
> >
>
> Yes, Mike there are better solutions.
>
> As for the IP issue, this has to be the weakest argument
> that I have ever heard. No property ever
> gets transferred or transformed. There is no reverse engineering,
> no derivative works, no copying and reselling. It is just
> items in a large database.
> It's like saying everyone can buy the same book, but people have access
> to only certain pages (items). Accessing the pages is an IP violation.
> Well I have been wrong before on IP issues, but this one really
> baffles me. Looks like TSR again, in a different body.
Yes, and if you buy the book under those terms, then you've bought the
book under those terms. If you don't like the terms, don't buy the book.
I mean, like you say, they are items in a database. If I go to a
data-mining website and pay for some service, I certainly don't have any
right to anything outside what I explicitly paid for, at least legally.
Just because it's in the same database doesn't mean you deserve access to
it.
--matt
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00201" HREF="msg00201.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></strong>,
Ryan Palacio <a href="mailto:rpalacio#verant,com">rpalacio#verant,com</a>, Wed 12 Apr 2000, 04:05 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00202" HREF="msg00202.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Wed 12 Apr 2000, 04:36 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00191" HREF="msg00191.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></strong>,
Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Wed 12 Apr 2000, 01:09 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00194" HREF="msg00194.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gaming sites</A></strong>,
Travis Nixon <a href="mailto:tnixon#avalanchesoftware,com">tnixon#avalanchesoftware,com</a>, Wed 12 Apr 2000, 04:03 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00176" HREF="msg00176.html">[MUD-Dev] DGD Description</A></strong>,
Christopher Allen <a href="mailto:ChristopherA#Skotos,net">ChristopherA#Skotos,net</a>, Tue 11 Apr 2000, 21:26 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00169" HREF="msg00169.html">[MUD-Dev] Sony to ban sale of online characters from its popular gamingsites</A></strong>,
F. Randall Farmer <a href="mailto:randy#communities,com">randy#communities,com</a>, Tue 11 Apr 2000, 18:46 GMT
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