<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition ! --> <!--X-From-R13: "@vpx Eunssare" <avpxfN3qernyzf.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:45:28 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 005801bfa313$0ade2520$3101a8c0@Nick.Nick --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:nicks@3drealms.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00125.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00123.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00222.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00007.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00126">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00126">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00126">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Nick Shaffner" <<A HREF="mailto:nicks#3drealms,com">nicks#3drealms,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:37:36 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Derek Snider Wrote: >From: "Travis Casey" <efindel#io,com> >To: <mud-dev#kanga,nu> >Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 8:51 PM >Subject: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition ! > > >> Hmm... nothing in the rules specifically prohibits creating your own >> GP language... :-) > >Yeah, but your GP language and the MUD code and data all combined >would have to fit in 16K ... that's getting pretty tight. > >What's the smallest size that anyone's been able to get MUD networking >code down to? (Written in C or C++) Does it include buffered input/output? >Full error checking? ...just curious... I feel that the networking code >is going to take up around 4K of valuable space... unless I'm way off. 4k is the number that I've come up with in my tests as the size for a well for a well written C/C++ telnet layer, though by crunching identifier names down to 2 characters, and making clever use of macros, you can compress the same code to about a 1.3k or so. Nick -- Nick Shaffner Programmer: Duke Nukem Forever 3D Realms _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev mailing list MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00125.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] characters per account</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00123.html">Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00222.html">Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00007.html">[MUD-Dev] Old Topic: Playfulness in 3-D Spaces, done.</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00126"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00126"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00133" HREF="msg00133.html">Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</A></strong>, Todd McKimmey <a href="mailto:rufus@wombatgames.com">rufus@wombatgames.com</a>, Mon 10 Apr 2000, 22:25 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00162" HREF="msg00162.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</A></strong>, Spin <a href="mailto:spin@fastlink.com.au">spin@fastlink.com.au</a>, Tue 11 Apr 2000, 17:22 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00175" HREF="msg00175.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir@dial.pipex.com">KaVir@dial.pipex.com</a>, Tue 11 Apr 2000, 21:26 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00222" HREF="msg00222.html">Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</A></strong>, Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt <a href="mailto:hhs@cbs.dtu.dk">hhs@cbs.dtu.dk</a>, Wed 12 Apr 2000, 14:23 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00126" HREF="msg00126.html">Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</A></strong>, Nick Shaffner <a href="mailto:nicks@3drealms.com">nicks@3drealms.com</a>, Mon 10 Apr 2000, 21:45 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00007" HREF="msg00007.html">[MUD-Dev] Old Topic: Playfulness in 3-D Spaces, done.</A></strong>, Rudy Fink <a href="mailto:rudyfink@rice.edu">rudyfink@rice.edu</a>, Sun 02 Apr 2000, 14:54 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00004" HREF="msg00004.html">[MUD-Dev] An idea for breaking away from the HP/Mana mindset</A></strong>, Eli Stevens <a href="mailto:wickedgrey@wickedgrey.com">wickedgrey@wickedgrey.com</a>, Sun 02 Apr 2000, 06:33 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00008" HREF="msg00008.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] An idea for breaking away from the HP/Mana mindset</A></strong>, Ryan P. <a href="mailto:ixiterra@earthlink.net">ixiterra@earthlink.net</a>, Sun 02 Apr 2000, 17:26 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00010" HREF="msg00010.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] An idea for breaking away from the HP/Mana mindset</A></strong>, Erik Jarvi <a href="mailto:ejarvi@megsinet.net">ejarvi@megsinet.net</a>, Sun 02 Apr 2000, 21:48 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>