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<LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly <<A HREF="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 03:56:19 +0000 (GMT)</LI>
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On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, Par Winzell wrote:
> I'll never understand this argument. The difference is enormous. Time is
> the ultimate resource, the great equalizer, the one that humans have in
> common. When you spend an evening in a group to clean out the orc caves,
> the simple fact of the shared time is what bonds you to these people.
Time isn't the issue. Free time is, and free time differs greatly among
people.
> It's superior because it creates a better game. It's that simple. Forget
> all the "ethical" crap; that's too easy to argue against. Investing time
> in a game cannot be compared to investing money.
If we're talking about big MMORPGs here, who cares if it creates a better
game. All that matters (or should matter to me, if the game is being
created for a publically-traded company) is how much profit it makes.
> I have nothing against an -expensive- game -- if I spend $200 to play a
> two-week scenario that I've looked forward to all year, that's fine. I've
> got nothing against exclusitivity. I don't care about fairness. I dislike
> using real-life wealth as an indicator as -anything- other than possibly
> civic responsibility. :-)
So, I've gone to an Ivy League university. I was raised in a privileged
environment. I had access to a fine education and was encouraged from
birth to speak properly, etc. This gives me an _undeniable_ advantage in a
game like Achaea (where things like your political standing is heavily
influenced by your perceived education level and your ability to
communicate clearly). All those advantages I listed above are a result of
real-life wealth (of my parents in this case). Do you object, then, to
designs which possibly reward well-spoken, well-educated players?
--matt
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00286" HREF="msg00286.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>,
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos@achaea.com">the_logos@achaea.com</a>, Sun 16 Apr 2000, 15:59 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00297" HREF="msg00297.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>,
Ryan Palacio <a href="mailto:rpalacio@verant.com">rpalacio@verant.com</a>, Sun 16 Apr 2000, 22:29 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00300" HREF="msg00300.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>,
Tess Lowe <a href="mailto:tess@havensong.com">tess@havensong.com</a>, Sun 16 Apr 2000, 22:59 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00303" HREF="msg00303.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>,
Par Winzell <a href="mailto:zell@alyx.com">zell@alyx.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 00:28 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00324" HREF="msg00324.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>,
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos@achaea.com">the_logos@achaea.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 04:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00328" HREF="msg00328.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>,
Par Winzell <a href="mailto:zell@alyx.com">zell@alyx.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 05:31 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00356" HREF="msg00356.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>,
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos@achaea.com">the_logos@achaea.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 16:22 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00404" HREF="msg00404.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] banning the sale of items</A></strong>,
adam <a href="mailto:adam@treyarch.com">adam@treyarch.com</a>, Tue 18 Apr 2000, 00:06 GMT
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