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Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !
"Chris Gray" <cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA>:
| ["Jon A. Lambert" <jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com>:]
|
| > >Erwin S. Andreasen is organizing a mud competition. The goal is to code
| > >a mud server in the language of your choice with the highest possible
| > >number
| > >of features, in *only* 16 Kb of source code + data files. This doesn't
| > >include the generated binaries and .o files. A few prizes are to be
| > >earned
| > >( such as programming books, a year of free mud hosting ).
|
| Wow, that's not much space! I took a quick look at ToyMUD, to see if there
| was any chance of doing simple changes to shrink it down. However, it
| is 80K of code and 26K in the data file. I doubt I could shrink it to
| 16K without losing some major feature or two. The first step would be
| one of those code obfuscators that removes whitespace and makes all
| identifiers one or two characters.
|
| 16K is enough for a decent MUD, I think, but the result isn't going to
| be anything you'd want to show to your mother! I think a more reasonable
| size count would be one of those program complexity measures, so that
| you could at least read the resulting source code.
Optimal solution is probably a language like J, Haskell or teco
that is more about conciseness than efficiency. :)
16K of J will take you a long way. For example, check out:
http://www.ai.mit.edu/extra/icfp-contest/isi.html
This is the 229 lines and 7078 characters (including comments and
development support "dead" code) J program that won honorable
mention in the ICFP '98 Functional Programming Contest for
beating out many compiled C programs many times longer, despite
being an interpreted language.
Cynbe
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- Thread context:
- Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !, (continued)
- Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !,
Jon A. Lambert jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com, Tue 04 Apr 2000, 05:29 GMT
- Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !,
Cynbe ru Taren cynbe#muq,org, Tue 04 Apr 2000, 05:30 GMT
- RE: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !,
Powell, Warren warren.powell#nz,unisys.com, Tue 04 Apr 2000, 22:22 GMT
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