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<LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly &lt;<A HREF="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 04:02:53 +0000 (GMT)</LI>
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On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, Christopher Allen wrote:

&gt; I'll paraphrase a couple of items by Gifford &amp; Libba Pinchot, from their
&gt; "Bill of Rights and Responsibilities of the Intelligent Organization".
&gt; Gifford &amp; Libba wrote this as a manifesto for rights of employees in a
&gt; business in their book "The End of Bureacracy".
&gt; 
&gt; VI. A Community of Differences
&gt; 
&gt; Right to:
&gt; Full membership in the organization
&gt; A community that cares for your welfare
&gt; 
&gt; Responsibility to:
&gt; Neither show nor tolerate bias or prejudice
&gt; Balance self-interest against the common good
&gt; Work toward worthwhile commond vision and values
&gt; Find value in diversity

These are pretty vague. I'm not allowed to show bias towards chocolate
over vanilla ice cream? I'm not allowed to prefer to date women who are in
shape as opposed to overweight women? 

What is the common good? Who defines it? What is the common vision and
values? I'd say we here at mud-dev are a community, but I think it's
pretty obvious that there is no common vision or values.

&gt; X. Limits on Internal Government
&gt; 
&gt; Right to:
&gt; Support the rights of every member
&gt; Constitutional limits on internal taxation
&gt; A goverment that guides the system
&gt; 
&gt; Responsibility to:
&gt; Use incentives, not mandates whenever possible
&gt; Be farsighted
&gt; Reward service to the whole
&gt; Push decisions to the lowest possible level

A constitutional limit on internal taxation is meaningless. What if that
limit is 99.9% of your income? All these "rights' and "responsibilities"
strike me as hopelessly vague, and so nebulous as to be utterly
meaningless.

--matt




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<LI><STRONG>RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00342" HREF="msg00342.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>, 
Raph Koster <a href="mailto:rkoster#austin,rr.com">rkoster#austin,rr.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 06:42 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00340" HREF="msg00340.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>, 
John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:jb#pulsepoll,com">jb#pulsepoll,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 06:40 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00337" HREF="msg00337.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>, 
Raph Koster <a href="mailto:rkoster#austin,rr.com">rkoster#austin,rr.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 06:41 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00305" HREF="msg00305.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>, 
Christopher Allen <a href="mailto:ChristopherA#skotos,net">ChristopherA#skotos,net</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 00:28 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00325" HREF="msg00325.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>, 
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 04:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00338" HREF="msg00338.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>, 
Raph Koster <a href="mailto:rkoster#austin,rr.com">rkoster#austin,rr.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 06:40 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00318" HREF="msg00318.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>, 
Jon Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 04:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00270" HREF="msg00270.html">[MUD-Dev] Quoting.</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sat 15 Apr 2000, 05:38 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00269" HREF="msg00269.html">[MUD-Dev] meets</A></strong>, 
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Sat 15 Apr 2000, 05:11 GMT
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