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<LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly <<A HREF="mailto:the_logos#achaea,mudservices.com">the_logos#achaea,mudservices.com</A>></LI>
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Kevin Scott London wrote:
> I see a couple of problems with this view. First, if you are talking
> banning someone it is usually on the IP level. Today, going on IP and
> even email is not very reliable becuase there are so many free services
> and ways to mask your IP, that these give only an indication of who it
> really is. Also, in the process of banning whole IPS you also lose more
> players that are not trouble makers. As for looking at someone who is a
> good customer, the only problem I see is things like the good customer
> gets mad at someone because he won't do something, then complains and lies
> saying that they were bugging him, etc....
> Just my 2 cents on the matter :)
Yes, this is a problem. We don't ban troublemakers from AOL, for instance.
I do find, however, that e-mailing AOL's abuse department (if the users
behavior warrants it) is quite effective. Nearly all our banned IP
addresses are either dedicated IPs, or high schools/public libraries (man
I wish there was a central database of these. I'd happily ban every high
school and public library in existence.)
Regarding the good customer complaiing....we don't actually get much of
this for some reason. I don't know if it's the culture that has grown or
what, but we get very very few complaints about other players from major
players. We try to foster a sort of take-care-of-yourself attitude, and
the only times we really get other players complaining is either a)
someone has really gone over the line p-killing, or b) some newbie is
being really annoying.
--matt
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00759" HREF="msg00759.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Trouble Makers or Regular Citizens</A></strong>,
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,mudservices.com">the_logos#achaea,mudservices.com</a>, Tue 28 Mar 2000, 20:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00762" HREF="msg00762.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Trouble Makers or Regular Citizens</A></strong>,
Justin Rogers <a href="mailto:justin#mlstoday,com">justin#mlstoday,com</a>, Tue 28 Mar 2000, 21:21 GMT
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Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,mudservices.com">the_logos#achaea,mudservices.com</a>, Wed 29 Mar 2000, 02:05 GMT
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Kevin Scott London <a href="mailto:london#cs,utk.edu">london#cs,utk.edu</a>, Tue 28 Mar 2000, 21:35 GMT
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Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,mudservices.com">the_logos#achaea,mudservices.com</a>, Wed 29 Mar 2000, 02:05 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00790" HREF="msg00790.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Trouble Makers or Regular Citizens</A></strong>,
Marc Bowden <a href="mailto:ryumo#merit,edu">ryumo#merit,edu</a>, Thu 30 Mar 2000, 04:00 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00796" HREF="msg00796.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Trouble Makers or Regular Citizens</A></strong>,
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