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<H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Clay Shirky's "Playfulness in 3-D Spaces"</H1>
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<LI><em>From</em>: msew &lt;<A HREF="mailto:msew#trilogy,com">msew#trilogy,com</A>&gt;</LI>
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At 02:50 PM 1/5/00 -0600, Nick Shaffner wrote:
&gt;From: J C Lawrence &lt;claw#kanga,nu&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; <A  HREF="http://www.shirky.com/writings/quake.html">http://www.shirky.com/writings/quake.html</A>
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; --&lt;cut&gt;--
&gt; &gt;&gt; Playfulness in 3-D Spaces
&gt; &gt;&gt; I have now found what I was looking for, and found it, to my
&gt; &gt;&gt; chagrin, years late. A networked 3-D engine with excellent shared
&gt; &gt;&gt; space capabilities, open source code, a well-published
&gt; &gt;&gt; world-building specification, an active development community, and a
&gt; &gt;&gt; project showing the kind of rapid improvement year after year that
&gt; &gt;&gt; comes from the best massively parallel design efforts, such as the
&gt; &gt;&gt; Web.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; It is called Quake.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Oh, good God. :P Somebody go show him EverQuest.


so I have not yet bothered to go and read the rest of his writings are any 
of them worthwhile?  (he seems to be pretty clueless by not playing 
games.  technology is applied to pornography, games, and military uses)

VRML is not quite good at any of those and thus it will be eclipsed by 
something that is.



 &gt; gibsonian worlds

in one of carmack's .plan entries he eludes to him going and attempting to 
create a gibsonian cyberspace world :)  something along the lines of "I 
think it is time for virtual worlds."



woo woo


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<LI><strong><A NAME="00055" HREF="msg00055.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clay Shirky's "Playfulness in 3-D Spaces"</A></strong>, 
Raph &amp; Kristen Koster <a href="mailto:koster#eden,com">koster#eden,com</a>, Wed 05 Jan 2000, 19:00 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00056" HREF="msg00056.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Clay Shirky's "Playfulness in 3-D Spaces"</A></strong>, 
Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Wed 05 Jan 2000, 19:00 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00058" HREF="msg00058.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Clay Shirky's "Playfulness in 3-D Spaces"</A></strong>, 
Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Wed 05 Jan 2000, 20:07 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00059" HREF="msg00059.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clay Shirky's "Playfulness in 3-D Spaces"</A></strong>, 
Nick Shaffner <a href="mailto:nicks#3drealms,com">nicks#3drealms,com</a>, Wed 05 Jan 2000, 20:55 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00072" HREF="msg00072.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clay Shirky's "Playfulness in 3-D Spaces"</A></strong>, 
msew <a href="mailto:msew#trilogy,com">msew#trilogy,com</a>, Sun 09 Jan 2000, 18:44 GMT
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Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greearb#candelatech,com">greearb#candelatech,com</a>, Wed 05 Jan 2000, 03:27 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00050" HREF="msg00050.html">[MUD-Dev] RFC: Worldforge project</A></strong>, 
Scott Clitheroe <a href="mailto:sclitheroe#home,com">sclitheroe#home,com</a>, Tue 04 Jan 2000, 23:24 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00049" HREF="msg00049.html">[MUD-Dev] EQ packet analyzer is gone?</A></strong>, 
Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Tue 04 Jan 2000, 17:51 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00051" HREF="msg00051.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] EQ packet analyzer is gone?</A></strong>, 
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