<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry --> <!--X-From-R13: [nggurj [vunyl <qvnoybNorfg.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:48:23 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.BSF.4.21.0002151639160.17530-100000#shell9,ba.best.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 200002151556130224.24D13BFA#discworld,imaginary.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:diablo#best,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00344.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00345.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00343.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00357.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00347">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00347">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00347">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly <<A HREF="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:41:35 -0800 (PST)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, David Bennett wrote: > On 2/15/00, at 3:54 PM, Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote: > > >I disagree. If a free MUD sucks, nobody's out anything. If a commercial > >MUD sucks, people are out lots of money. That's a pretty powerful > >incentive for the commercial MUD not to suck. They put in more effort in > >selecting the right people, not just whoever's willing to do the job; > >they have actual priorities and standards and source control; and their > >staff have to meet certain professional standards of conduct. On a free > >MUD, there tends to be a general attitude of "hey, it's free, asswipe". > > True, but most of the people running the sort of muds that people complain > about... Would do similar things if they were making people pay for access > or not. Mathew was arguing that having lots of small paint-by-numbers > commercial muds would be better than the same free muds. I was just > pointing out why I disagreed with that conclusion :) Or at least think > that it doesn't matter either way. The people that put up paint-by-numbers > things are not going to make anything interesting, if they are making > people pay to play or not. No I wasn't. I was arguing that those who wanted to make a commercial mud starting from a paint-by-numbers base would have to improve and change it immensely if they wanted to make any money (and because there are inherent costs in running a commercial operation, if you're bringing in no revenue, you are losing money). --matt _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00343" HREF="msg00343.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "David Bennett" <ddt#discworld,imaginary.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00344.html">commercial muds and cable TV (was RE: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00345.html">[MUD-Dev] business models</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00343.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00357.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00347"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00347"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00335" HREF="msg00335.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Tue 15 Feb 2000, 22:30 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00338" HREF="msg00338.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, David Bennett <a href="mailto:ddt#discworld,imaginary.com">ddt#discworld,imaginary.com</a>, Tue 15 Feb 2000, 23:05 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00340" HREF="msg00340.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 15 Feb 2000, 23:47 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00343" HREF="msg00343.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, David Bennett <a href="mailto:ddt#discworld,imaginary.com">ddt#discworld,imaginary.com</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 00:02 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00347" HREF="msg00347.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 00:48 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00357" HREF="msg00357.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, MichelleThompson <a href="mailto:m.a.thompson#mindspring,com">m.a.thompson#mindspring,com</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 04:05 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00361" HREF="msg00361.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, David Bennett <a href="mailto:ddt#discworld,imaginary.com">ddt#discworld,imaginary.com</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 06:14 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00364" HREF="msg00364.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 09:24 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00342" HREF="msg00342.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 00:02 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>