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<LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly &lt;<A HREF="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:41:35 -0800 (PST)</LI>
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, David Bennett wrote:

&gt; On 2/15/00, at 3:54 PM, Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote: 
&gt; 
&gt; &gt;I disagree. If a free MUD sucks, nobody's out anything. If a commercial
&gt; &gt;MUD sucks, people are out lots of money. That's a pretty powerful
&gt; &gt;incentive for the commercial MUD not to suck. They put in more effort in
&gt; &gt;selecting the right people, not just whoever's willing to do the job;
&gt; &gt;they have actual priorities and standards and source control; and their
&gt; &gt;staff have to meet certain professional standards of conduct. On a free
&gt; &gt;MUD, there tends to be a general attitude of "hey, it's free, asswipe".
&gt; 
&gt; True, but most of the people running the sort of muds that people complain
&gt; about...  Would do similar things if they were making people pay for access
&gt; or not.  Mathew was arguing that having lots of small paint-by-numbers
&gt; commercial muds would be better than the same free muds.  I was just
&gt; pointing out why I disagreed with that conclusion :)  Or at least think
&gt; that it doesn't matter either way.  The people that put up paint-by-numbers
&gt; things are not going to make anything interesting, if they are making
&gt; people pay to play or not.

No I wasn't. I was arguing that those who wanted to make a commercial mud
starting from a paint-by-numbers base would have to improve and change it
immensely if they wanted to make any money (and because there are inherent
costs in running a commercial operation, if you're bringing in no revenue,
you are losing money).

--matt




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<LI><strong><A NAME="00335" HREF="msg00335.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Tue 15 Feb 2000, 22:30 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00338" HREF="msg00338.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
David Bennett <a href="mailto:ddt#discworld,imaginary.com">ddt#discworld,imaginary.com</a>, Tue 15 Feb 2000, 23:05 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00340" HREF="msg00340.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 15 Feb 2000, 23:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00343" HREF="msg00343.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
David Bennett <a href="mailto:ddt#discworld,imaginary.com">ddt#discworld,imaginary.com</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 00:02 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00347" HREF="msg00347.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 00:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00357" HREF="msg00357.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
MichelleThompson <a href="mailto:m.a.thompson#mindspring,com">m.a.thompson#mindspring,com</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 04:05 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00361" HREF="msg00361.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
David Bennett <a href="mailto:ddt#discworld,imaginary.com">ddt#discworld,imaginary.com</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 06:14 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00364" HREF="msg00364.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 09:24 GMT
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