<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: RE: [MUD-DEV] a shrinking pool of players? --> <!--X-From-R13: "Fenivf E. 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Casey" <<A HREF="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:26:01 -0600 (EST)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Bryce Harrington wrote: > > And yeah, I think the number of people actively playing text muds is > > probably shrinking. I think this is the last echo of what happened to the > > paper-game industry in the 1980s and early 1990s. Too bad too. (FWIW, one > > of my pipedreams along these lines is to put out paper RPG > > systems/supplements as a labor of love, without worrying about turning a > > profit, as that's almost impossible to do these days in that part of the > > industry. Who knows, maybe someday...) > > Hmm, I've been thinking along the same lines... Do you think a paper > RPG rules system, if strongly associated with a computerized version of > the game rules, might do better? I.e., would the fact that there are > umteen thousand players of such and such online rpg give a publisher > enough incentive to perhaps try publishing the rules system behind it? > In this situation, would be be wise to keep the game rules "secret" > until the publisher can publish them, or would it be better to open them > freely, thus gaining public feedback and enhancement (and maybe users)? I don't think it would do better -- you might be more likely to find someone willing to publish a paper RPG based on a popular mud than one without such a basis, but beyond the initial spurt, I don't think it would help much, if at all. If you're using rules simple enough to also be used as a paper RPG, I don't think you have much hope of keeping them secret -- there are a lot of players out there who are eager to reverse-engineer such "secrets." Note as well that few paper RPGs do well on the basis of just a good system -- it's setting and quality of supplements that turn the trick. -- |\ _,,,---,,_ Travis S. Casey <efindel#io,com> ZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ No one agrees with me. Not even me. |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'_) _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00379" HREF="msg00379.html">RE: [MUD-DEV] a shrinking pool of players?</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Bryce Harrington <bryce#neptune,net></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00389.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00391.html">RE: [MUD-DEV] a shrinking pool of players?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00379.html">RE: [MUD-DEV] a shrinking pool of players?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00353.html">Re: [MUD-DEV] a shrinking pool of players?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00392"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00392"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00351" HREF="msg00351.html">RE: commercial muds and cable TV (was RE: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry )</A></strong>, Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 02:07 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00366" HREF="msg00366.html">RE: commercial muds and cable TV (was RE: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry )</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 17:29 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00352" HREF="msg00352.html">RE: [MUD-DEV] a shrinking pool of players?</A></strong>, Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 02:07 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00379" HREF="msg00379.html">RE: [MUD-DEV] a shrinking pool of players?</A></strong>, Bryce Harrington <a href="mailto:bryce#neptune,net">bryce#neptune,net</a>, Thu 17 Feb 2000, 18:06 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00392" HREF="msg00392.html">RE: [MUD-DEV] a shrinking pool of players?</A></strong>, Travis S. Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Thu 17 Feb 2000, 20:47 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00353" HREF="msg00353.html">Re: [MUD-DEV] a shrinking pool of players?</A></strong>, PartyG2816 <a href="mailto:PartyG2816#aol,com">PartyG2816#aol,com</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 02:13 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00355" HREF="msg00355.html">Re: [MUD-DEV] a shrinking pool of players?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 03:04 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00354" HREF="msg00354.html">Re: [MUD-DEV] a shrinking pool of players?</A></strong>, PartyG2816 <a href="mailto:PartyG2816#aol,com">PartyG2816#aol,com</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 02:35 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00360" HREF="msg00360.html">Re: [MUD-DEV] a shrinking pool of players?</A></strong>, Ryan P. <a href="mailto:ixiterra#earthlink,net">ixiterra#earthlink,net</a>, Wed 16 Feb 2000, 05:34 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>