<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary? --> <!--X-From-R13: Buvyyvc Zrauneqg <cuvyraNshaxl.zbaxrl.bet> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:36:46 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 20000322010133.A5367#funky,monkey.org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: E12XVws-0001DB-00#under,eng.cp.net --> <!--X-Reference: 14551.65272.614292.445363#alyx,skotos.net --> <!--X-Reference: zell#alyx,com --> <!--X-Reference: E12XYWb-0000hk-00#under,eng.cp.net --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really </title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:philen#funky,monkey.org"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00687.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00690.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00680.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00695.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00688">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00688">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00688">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Phillip Lenhardt <<A HREF="mailto:philen#funky,monkey.org">philen#funky,monkey.org</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:01:33 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 03:57:25PM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote: > True. That was one of the sources of the design requirement for > Murkle that features must be programmable without requiring source > access to any other objects. No matter how many times I read this design requirement--and it has been many: I have read and reread nearly every thread in the archive in which it appears--I always come to the conclusion that it is either tautological or trivially false. Since both those conclusions seem unlikely candidates for what you mean, I was wondering if you could clarify. I read your design requirement either as: "Any object must be able to affect any other object without changing that other object." which is obviously my trivially false reading :) Or I read it as: "Any object must be able to affect itself without changing any other object." which is my tautological reading. _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev mailing list MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00695" HREF="msg00695.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> J C Lawrence <claw#cp,net></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00675" HREF="msg00675.html">[MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> J C Lawrence <claw#cp,net></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00679" HREF="msg00679.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Par Winzell <zell#alyx,com></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00680" HREF="msg00680.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> J C Lawrence <claw#cp,net></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00687.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00690.html">[MUD-Dev] Gamasutra: Online Justice Systems</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00680.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00695.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00688"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00688"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00675" HREF="msg00675.html">[MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Tue 21 Mar 2000, 21:12 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00678" HREF="msg00678.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></strong>, scott guzman <a href="mailto:shade2x#home,com">shade2x#home,com</a>, Tue 21 Mar 2000, 21:55 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00679" HREF="msg00679.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></strong>, Par Winzell <a href="mailto:zell#alyx,com">zell#alyx,com</a>, Tue 21 Mar 2000, 23:11 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00680" HREF="msg00680.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Tue 21 Mar 2000, 23:57 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00688" HREF="msg00688.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></strong>, Phillip Lenhardt <a href="mailto:philen#funky,monkey.org">philen#funky,monkey.org</a>, Wed 22 Mar 2000, 06:36 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00695" HREF="msg00695.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Wed 22 Mar 2000, 23:14 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00706" HREF="msg00706.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></strong>, Phillip Lenhardt <a href="mailto:philen#funky,monkey.org">philen#funky,monkey.org</a>, Thu 23 Mar 2000, 06:14 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00681" HREF="msg00681.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></strong>, Kevin Littlejohn <a href="mailto:darius#connect,com.au">darius#connect,com.au</a>, Wed 22 Mar 2000, 00:25 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00683" HREF="msg00683.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></strong>, Chris Jones <a href="mailto:cjones#v-wave,com">cjones#v-wave,com</a>, Wed 22 Mar 2000, 00:49 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>