<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry --> <!--X-From-R13: Dvpuneq Ibbypbpx <YnHveNqvny.cvcrk.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:16:36 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 3885388C.2E73#dial,pipex.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.BSF.4.21.0002171310560.19781-100000#shell9,ba.best.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00423.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00425.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00400.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00427.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00424">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00424">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00424">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Richard Woolcock <<A HREF="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:07:40 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Matthew Mihaly wrote: > The majority of this discussion between you and myself has been snipped, because it's starting to get repetitive. I can see where you're coming from and don't disagree with it - but I don't think we'll ever share the same views as our motivations are completely different. > it sometimes ticks off the players, who would prefer we spend more time > doing exactly what they want. I'd get too bored running Achaea that way, > however. I have to remain amused as well as the players. That, to me, is > the great thing about running a small commercial world. As long as you > can maintain a certain level of quality, you can make money and still have > reasonable freedom to do what you want with it (of course, this assumes > that some segment of the mudding population shares your idea of what is > fun, but that is not unlikely I would say). So basically you're a half-way-house between purely hobby and purely commercial? > > > Not arguing that, and I have no problem with quality free muds. If you > > > want to cater to an audience of 100, go for it. Power to you. > > > > Actually I am catering to an audience of 1. If anyone else wants to play, > > more power to them - they're welcome to join me. > > Ok, fair enough, but I guess to me, muds are about community, with most of > the content being provided by the players. You just need to provide them > with constructive ways to provide interesting content. I know that Achaea, > for instnace, would be deathly boring with only 1 person. I cater to an audience of 1 - but that doesn't mean my mud only has one player. Certainly if that were the case it would lose out on the main purpose of a MUD - to be Multi-User. The difference is that the players who come to my mud do so because they playing within my definition of what makes a good mud - not because I've tried to lure them in by making the mud follow their own definition. > > > My only reasoning for thinking that codebases should remove commercial > > > restrictions is that money provides the best motivator > > > > And this is the root of our disagreement. I make plenty of money from > > my real life job - creating the mud is my hobby and my escape from the > > pressures of other people. You make your money from your mud. > > Right, you have a job. You can't spend 50 hours a week and employ other > people to work 50 hours a week on your mud. Chances are, if you were > independently wealthy, you'd still not spend 50 hours a week working on > your mud. I don't know what you do, but if you were independently wealthy, > do you really think you'd work as hard, as regularly, and as steadily at > your job as you do now? I'd probably put the same about of time into my hobbies - one of which is building my mud. KaVir. _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00427" HREF="msg00427.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Matthew Mihaly <diablo#best,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00400" HREF="msg00400.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Matthew Mihaly <diablo#best,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00423.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Codebase Ideas</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00425.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Guide Applicant : Player Ratio</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00400.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00427.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00424"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00424"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00428" HREF="msg00428.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, adam <a href="mailto:adam#treyarch,com">adam#treyarch,com</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 22:34 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00438" HREF="msg00438.html">[MUD-Dev] Dynamic help files, was Re: code base inquiry</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Sun 20 Feb 2000, 19:34 GMT </LI> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00395" HREF="msg00395.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Thu 17 Feb 2000, 20:48 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00400" HREF="msg00400.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Thu 17 Feb 2000, 23:22 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00424" HREF="msg00424.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 19:16 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00427" HREF="msg00427.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 20:44 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00432" HREF="msg00432.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, MichelleThompson <a href="mailto:m.a.thompson#mindspring,com">m.a.thompson#mindspring,com</a>, Sat 19 Feb 2000, 17:36 GMT </LI> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00396" HREF="msg00396.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Dundee <a href="mailto:SkeptAck#antisocial,com">SkeptAck#antisocial,com</a>, Thu 17 Feb 2000, 23:22 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00408" HREF="msg00408.html">[MUD-Dev] OT: Money as motivator (was Re: code base inquiry )</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 05:36 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>