<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] (fwd) ADMIN: "A Classification Of Muds" [was 'In defence of stock muds...'] --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNxnatn.ah> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:54:22 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 19730.951364452#kanga,nu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] (fwd) ADMIN: "A Classification Of Muds" [was 'In def</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00464.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00466.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00471.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00464.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00465">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00465">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00465">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] (fwd) ADMIN: "A Classification Of Muds" [was 'In defence of stock muds...']</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] (fwd) ADMIN: "A Classification Of Muds" [was 'In defence of stock muds...']</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:54:12 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Date: 08/13/1997 Subject: ADMIN: "A Classification Of Muds" [was 'In defence of stock muds...'] Newsgroup: rec.games.mud.admin Author: Greg Munt <greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk> Thread Message On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Martin Keegan wrote: > Greg Munt wrote: > >> "Scratch muds can only ever be leaves of The Mud Tree." > > This is bollocks. Read the paper again. It is not entirely bollocks. Indeed, in your paper you state that: "Since 1990, most mud evolution has been by the genetic mechanism." In response to Batzing's insistence that scratch muds are 'at an evolutionary dead-end', you agreed. Could it not be said that, although grafting is a possible route for mud evolution, this has not occurred in great abundance 'since 1990'? If scratch muds again become popular, what are the consequences for mud evolution? Which 'route' is preferable (if there is a preferable route)? In your paper you say that, if faced with stagnation, mud authors will resort to writing from scratch and/or grafting, and that 'the diversity of the overall system will be restored'. Does this take into account that whilst a mud's source remains unpublished: * Genetic evolution is impossible * Grafting is unlikely (unless the mud becomes popular/well-known) ? Should it be noted that numerous scratch mud authors are unconcerned with the popularity of their mud? Does this not reduce the chances of grafting? Are some authors deliberately designing a mud that might be construed as non-populist? Do muds with their source on public release enjoy a certain degree of 'immortality'? Do scratch muds with their source unavailable run the risk of swift 'death'? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I want to be imp on a MU*!!! Where do I get the code for CircleMUD???" "I have great ideas for a new mud, but if I use stock code I'll be flamed." These are the two extremes. Can the pro-scratchers go too far? _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00464.html">[MUD-Dev] (fwd) Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases (was: help me find 100% free graphical mud)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00466.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Newbies</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00471.html">[MUD-Dev] player persistence</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00464.html">[MUD-Dev] (fwd) Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases (was: help me find 100% free graphical mud)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00465"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00465"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] [Off-topic] GDC-2000</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00495" HREF="msg00495.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] [Off-topic] GDC-2000</A></strong>, David Bennett <a href="mailto:ddt#discworld,imaginary.com">ddt#discworld,imaginary.com</a>, Mon 28 Feb 2000, 22:58 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00556" HREF="msg00556.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] [Off-topic] GDC-2000</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sun 05 Mar 2000, 19:58 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00478" HREF="msg00478.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] [Off-topic] GDC-2000</A></strong>, Justin Lockshaw <a href="mailto:jlockshaw#signio,com">jlockshaw#signio,com</a>, Sat 26 Feb 2000, 18:38 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00471" HREF="msg00471.html">[MUD-Dev] player persistence</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Fri 25 Feb 2000, 06:15 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00465" HREF="msg00465.html">[MUD-Dev] (fwd) ADMIN: "A Classification Of Muds" [was 'In defence of stock muds...']</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 24 Feb 2000, 03:54 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00464" HREF="msg00464.html">[MUD-Dev] (fwd) Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases (was: help me find 100% free graphical mud)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 24 Feb 2000, 03:50 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00462" HREF="msg00462.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #288 - 9 msgs</A></strong>, Dr. Cat <a href="mailto:cat#realtime,net">cat#realtime,net</a>, Thu 24 Feb 2000, 03:45 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00463" HREF="msg00463.html">[MUD-Dev] Distribution</A></strong>, Geir Harald Hansen <a href="mailto:geirhans#ifi,uio.no">geirhans#ifi,uio.no</a>, Thu 24 Feb 2000, 03:45 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00459" HREF="msg00459.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Next gen MUD wishlist</A></strong>, Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Wed 23 Feb 2000, 18:53 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>