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<H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Embedded languages, object persistance... ack.</H1>
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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:icecube#ihug,co.nz">icecube#ihug,co.nz</A></LI>
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On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 01:17:25AM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 15:20:42 -0500
> Jay Carlson <nop#mitre,org> wrote:
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> > The big lose of persistence is that it's harder to get things back
> > to a known state if your code screws up.
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> In general this is a function of transaction and logging models.
> Given a well implemented transactional model rolling back the log to
> the last set of compleat transactions *should* be cheap and fast.
I read Jay's comment more along the lines of "if your code screws up and
creates 50,000 Swords-o'-Death scattered across the world" rather than a
transaction issue. If your world is persistant, you can't just "fix the code
and reboot" to get back to an undamaged game state.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00004" HREF="msg00004.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Embedded languages, object persistance... ack.</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sat 01 Jan 2000, 19:03 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00046" HREF="msg00046.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Embedded languages, object persistance... ack.</A></strong>,
Jay Carlson <a href="mailto:nop#mitre,org">nop#mitre,org</a>, Tue 04 Jan 2000, 01:28 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00043" HREF="msg00043.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Embedded languages, object persistance... ack.</A></strong>,
Jay Carlson <a href="mailto:nop#mitre,org">nop#mitre,org</a>, Mon 03 Jan 2000, 20:25 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00124" HREF="msg00124.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Embedded languages, object persistance... ack.</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Tue 18 Jan 2000, 09:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00137" HREF="msg00137.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Embedded languages, object persistance... ack.</A></strong>,
icecube <a href="mailto:icecube#ihug,co.nz">icecube#ihug,co.nz</a>, Tue 18 Jan 2000, 20:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00144" HREF="msg00144.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Embedded languages, object persistance... ack.</A></strong>,
Kevin Littlejohn <a href="mailto:darius#connect,com.au">darius#connect,com.au</a>, Wed 19 Jan 2000, 02:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00092" HREF="msg00092.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Embedded languages, object persistance... ack.</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sat 15 Jan 2000, 07:14 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00001" HREF="msg00001.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</A></strong>,
Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</a>, Fri 31 Dec 1999, 21:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00025" HREF="msg00025.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sun 02 Jan 2000, 22:20 GMT
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