<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases --> <!--X-From-R13: Uert [vyyre <tzvyyreNpynffvp-tnzrf.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:54:10 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 38835C38.3B730E51@classic-games.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 200001161638.IAA08248#cashew,wolfskeep.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00106.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00105.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00100.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00108.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00104">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00104">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00104">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Greg Miller <<A HREF="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:15:20 -0600</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> "T. Alexander Popiel" wrote: > >From: Charles Hughes <charles.hughes#bigfoot,com> > >At the risk of being slapped by a mackerel, who here really thinks they > >can do a better database design than those afforded by the likes of the > >free or commercial databases? [I'll ask those here who've actually > >worked on these databases not to chime in. :)] > > For the limited problem set of a MUD world, yes, I think that I can > design a better database than one of the free or commercial ones. Commercial databases do lots of nice things, but there's a reason why sites running heavy-duty databases of the likes of eBay and Amazon don't use commercial packages. > contention being extremely frequent, and rollback is a very > unsatisfying contention handling mechanism. I disagree for reasons that have been discussed heavily on this list. > synchronization of the database, for instance). Because of this > variability, I strongly believe that there is no one right solution > to the MUD database design problem, and moreover that the extant > commercial and free databases don't come even close to providing > what most MUDs need. [quoted for no other reason than the simple fact that I agree] -- <A HREF="http://www.classic-games.com/">http://www.classic-games.com/</A> History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme. *** Please limit .sigs to four lines and avoid HTML mail or posts. *** _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00100" HREF="msg00100.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "T. Alexander Popiel" <popiel#wolfskeep,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00106.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Databases (was Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00105.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Community Relations</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00100.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00108.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00104"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00104"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Valhalla license?</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00143" HREF="msg00143.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Valhalla license?</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Wed 19 Jan 2000, 02:56 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00098" HREF="msg00098.html">[MUD-Dev] Mud-Dev FAQ part II</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sun 16 Jan 2000, 18:59 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00097" HREF="msg00097.html">[MUD-Dev] Mud-Dev FAQ part I</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sun 16 Jan 2000, 18:59 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00100" HREF="msg00100.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, T. Alexander Popiel <a href="mailto:popiel#wolfskeep,com">popiel#wolfskeep,com</a>, Sun 16 Jan 2000, 18:59 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00104" HREF="msg00104.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</a>, Mon 17 Jan 2000, 19:54 GMT </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00108" HREF="msg00108.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Mon 17 Jan 2000, 22:02 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00111" HREF="msg00111.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</a>, Mon 17 Jan 2000, 22:27 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00112" HREF="msg00112.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, Laurent Bossavit <a href="mailto:bossavit#cybercable,fr">bossavit#cybercable,fr</a>, Mon 17 Jan 2000, 23:51 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00113" HREF="msg00113.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, Dream Weaver at home <a href="mailto:windminstrel#home,net">windminstrel#home,net</a>, Tue 18 Jan 2000, 02:18 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>