<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] [adv-mud] Re: Topic list repost (fwd) --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNxnatn.ah> --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:41:10 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: E12BRCB-0002BC-00#dingo,kanga.nu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] [adv-mud] Re: Topic list repost (fwd)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00186.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00188.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00231.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00186.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00187">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00187">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00187">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] [adv-mud] Re: Topic list repost (fwd)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] [adv-mud] Re: Topic list repost (fwd)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:40:55 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> ------- Forwarded Message Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:06:31 -0600 From: Chris Jacobson <fear#technologist,com> To: "Advanced MUD Design" <adv-mud#egroups,com> On 1/20/00 2:22 PM, Erwin S. Andreasen (erwin#andreasen,com) stated: LexiMUD 0.3 (<A HREF="http://avp.dhs.org/leximud">http://avp.dhs.org/leximud</A>) features some things that may be of interest: >STL I have implemented my own derivative of STL. It is fully compliant to the STL interface, and is safe for drop-in use in existing MUDs. To do this, one of the things I did with <list> is to make the nodes reference counted and "purged"-flagged (which causes iterators to step over the node). As for the other classes, well, doing something like this with <vector> would involve a little more overhead, and the preferred mechanism for accessing a <vector> is incrementally with numbers (hence why the optimized <vector> uses vector<>::__start and vector<>::__end+1 for its begin() and end() iters). The implemented classes include <list>, <vector>, <map>, <multimap>. So far these classes pass all the STLport tests that I have thrown at it (although I haven't fully tested <vector> with the STLport tests, it runs great in the MUD). There are other important portions of the STL included as well, and it supports the full type_traits and iterator_traits scheme. The LexiSTL is in lexi/stl. >Strings I have a semi-tested String class in lexi/src/string.{h,cp} Strings are reference counted and use a sub-string mechanism to allow for optimum memory efficiency, and the operations are a bit optimized towards the mechanism. All Strings are effectively substrings, referencing the internal String class, and storing the offset and length. These strings are also compatible with C strings in that attempting to access them in C-like ways causes them to convert themselves over to a single-reference of only the content string itself (thus de-referencing the shared string). >Virtual overlaid filesystem (not REALLY an OO issue, it just happens the >thing is implemented in an OO way) I'd love to see something like this, and if I ever get the time I might even do it. >gcc switches, gcc vs egcs, -fexternal-templates or not Isn't this a NULL issue with GCC 2.95 being done by the EGCS committee (GCC is Dead, Long Live GCC) >OO Interpreters >Pointerless Muds >Non C++ OO implementation/how-tos This brings me to something I've been looking into - reimplementing the whole codebase in Python <g>. I bought the book Erwin recommended, and I love the language. - - Chris Jacobson ------- End of Forwarded Message -- J C Lawrence Home: claw#kanga,nu ----------(*) Other: coder#kanga,nu --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=-- _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00186.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [adv-mud] What good is a hero when nobody knows?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00188.html">[MUD-Dev] Multiply oriented interactive worlds...</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00231.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] [adv-mud] Spellbound Hierarchy and Keys (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00186.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [adv-mud] What good is a hero when nobody knows?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00187"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00187"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] MUD-Dev vs. adv-mud</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00206" HREF="msg00206.html">[MUD-Dev] MUD-Dev vs. adv-mud</A></strong>, phlUID <a href="mailto:phluid#mindless,com">phluid#mindless,com</a>, Fri 21 Jan 2000, 06:37 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00204" HREF="msg00204.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [adv-mud] MUD-Dev vs. adv-mud</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Fri 21 Jan 2000, 06:34 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00201" HREF="msg00201.html">[MUD-Dev] [adv-mud] Spellbound Hierarchy and Keys (fwd)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Fri 21 Jan 2000, 04:39 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00231" HREF="msg00231.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] [adv-mud] Spellbound Hierarchy and Keys (fwd)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sat 29 Jan 2000, 20:46 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00187" HREF="msg00187.html">[MUD-Dev] [adv-mud] Re: Topic list repost (fwd)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 20 Jan 2000, 23:41 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00186" HREF="msg00186.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [adv-mud] What good is a hero when nobody knows?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 20 Jan 2000, 23:34 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00207" HREF="msg00207.html">[MUD-Dev] RE: [adv-mud] What good is a hero when nobody knows?</A></strong>, phlUID <a href="mailto:phluid#mindless,com">phluid#mindless,com</a>, Fri 21 Jan 2000, 06:37 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00235" HREF="msg00235.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RE: [adv-mud] What good is a hero when nobody knows?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sun 30 Jan 2000, 05:13 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00239" HREF="msg00239.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RE: [adv-mud] What good is a hero when nobody knows?</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greearb#candelatech,com">greearb#candelatech,com</a>, Sun 30 Jan 2000, 17:40 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>