<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] ADMIN: looking for work? --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNpc.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:28:35 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: E12UedC-0000SL-00#under,eng.cp.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] ADMIN: looking for work?</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#cp,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00604.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00606.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00625.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00609.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00605">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00605">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00605">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: looking for work?</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] ADMIN: looking for work?</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:52:14 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Writing as list owner: One of the things that came up at the CGDC dinner was that a number of people attending were looking for work, and a number of companies were looking for people. If you check the list archives there's a fairly well established tradition of both "job wanted" and "job offered" posts to the list. In line with that tradition, I have absolutely no problem with people posting about available positions or that they're even looking for a new position -- given the following caveats: MUD-Dev is not to become a commercial head hunting ground. I'm not interested in seeing resumes posted, or long job descriptions or requirements. MUD-Dev is not a formal venue for job hunting. Specifically I don't want to see a lot of job related traffic here (I've seen other lists destroyed by it), but I would like for the list to help where it can and I don't mind a job related post "now and then". So what can you post? The key element that distinguishes an acceptable posting from something I'll silently delete is character. Commercial chest puffing, marketing/PR/sales pitches, abject pleas ("please please let me work for you!", "Never work for those bastards!"), HR goofiness etc are not ___EVER__ welcome, be they related to jobs or not. The "Note from the List Owner" at the list page at <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev/">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev/</A> should spell what is expected fairly clearly. But, if you happen to be affiliated with a game company that has an open position it is perfectly fine to mention the position in the manner of a helpful note for the membership, just not as a method of representing your company (remember, YOU are subscribed to MUD-Dev, NOT your company, and NOT you as a representative of your company). If you happen to be looking for a job in the game industry related to MUD-Dev's topic areas, it is perfectly Okay to mention that to the list as it could be helpful to both you and some of the other commercially affiliated list members. No selling of anything, just "useful information". Please also keep any follow-up traffic off the list. It doesn't belong here. Have a look at the list archives to see how previous posters have handled it (IIRC Christopher Allen, Mike Sellers and Raph Koster have each posted on open postions with their respective companies). A number of others have mentioned their job hunts to the list as well. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#kanga,nu ----------(*) Internet: coder#kanga,nu ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev mailing list MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00609" HREF="msg00609.html">[MUD-Dev] Have openings</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> "Gary Whitten" <undiscoveredworlds#mediaone,net></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00604.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] [OT] Sound in games</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00606.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Open Source Online Gaming</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00625.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: Kanga.Nu will be moving (again)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00609.html">[MUD-Dev] Have openings</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00605"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00605"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>RE: [MUD-Dev] better usage through mechanics [from: CGDC dinner]</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00649" HREF="msg00649.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] better usage through mechanics [from: CGDC dinner]</A></strong>, John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:jb#pulsepoll,com">jb#pulsepoll,com</a>, Fri 17 Mar 2000, 09:30 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00656" HREF="msg00656.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] better usage through mechanics [from: CGDC dinner]</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Fri 17 Mar 2000, 23:43 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00626" HREF="msg00626.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: Lost mail?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 16 Mar 2000, 09:43 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00625" HREF="msg00625.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: Kanga.Nu will be moving (again)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 16 Mar 2000, 08:08 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00605" HREF="msg00605.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: looking for work?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Wed 15 Mar 2000, 00:28 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00609" HREF="msg00609.html">[MUD-Dev] Have openings</A></strong>, Gary Whitten <a href="mailto:undiscoveredworlds#mediaone,net">undiscoveredworlds#mediaone,net</a>, Wed 15 Mar 2000, 04:06 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00602" HREF="msg00602.html">[MUD-Dev] [OT] Sound in games</A></strong>, Erik Jarvi <a href="mailto:ejarvi#megsinet,net">ejarvi#megsinet,net</a>, Tue 14 Mar 2000, 20:56 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00604" HREF="msg00604.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] [OT] Sound in games</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 14 Mar 2000, 21:11 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00598" HREF="msg00598.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] politics</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Tue 14 Mar 2000, 01:36 GMT </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>