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<LI><em>From</em>: "Sellers, Michael" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</A>&gt;</LI>
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Greg Miller wrote:
&gt; "T. Alexander Popiel" wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt;From: Charles Hughes &lt;charles.hughes#bigfoot,com&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;At the risk of being slapped by a mackerel, who here really thinks they
&gt; &gt; &gt;can do a better database design than those afforded by the likes of the
&gt; &gt; &gt;free or commercial databases?  [I'll ask those here who've actually
&gt; &gt; &gt;worked on these databases not to chime in. :)]
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; For the limited problem set of a MUD world, yes, I think that I can
&gt; &gt; design a better database than one of the free or commercial ones.
&gt; 
&gt; Commercial databases do lots of nice things, but there's a reason why
&gt; sites running heavy-duty databases of the likes of eBay and Amazon don't
&gt; use commercial packages.

I don't think this is true.  I don't know about Amazon, but I *believe* eBay
uses Oracle -- and I know for a fact that many very high volume sites do.
Oracle is about as bullet-proof as you're going to get for large, complex
apps, and more versatile and applicable than this thread has made it seem.  

&gt; &gt; synchronization of the database, for instance).  Because of this
&gt; &gt; variability, I strongly believe that there is no one right solution
&gt; &gt; to the MUD database design problem, and moreover that the extant
&gt; &gt; commercial and free databases don't come even close to providing
&gt; &gt; what most MUDs need.
&gt; 
&gt; [quoted for no other reason than the simple fact that I agree]

Maybe I've missed it, but what is it that "most MUDs need" that a commercial
(admittedly often expensive) database package doesn't provide?  

Mike Sellers



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<LI><strong><A NAME="00098" HREF="msg00098.html">[MUD-Dev] Mud-Dev FAQ part II</A></strong>, 
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sun 16 Jan 2000, 18:59 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00097" HREF="msg00097.html">[MUD-Dev] Mud-Dev FAQ part I</A></strong>, 
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sun 16 Jan 2000, 18:59 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00100" HREF="msg00100.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, 
T. Alexander Popiel <a href="mailto:popiel#wolfskeep,com">popiel#wolfskeep,com</a>, Sun 16 Jan 2000, 18:59 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00104" HREF="msg00104.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, 
Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</a>, Mon 17 Jan 2000, 19:54 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00108" HREF="msg00108.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, 
Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Mon 17 Jan 2000, 22:02 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00111" HREF="msg00111.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, 
Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</a>, Mon 17 Jan 2000, 22:27 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00112" HREF="msg00112.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, 
Laurent Bossavit <a href="mailto:bossavit#cybercable,fr">bossavit#cybercable,fr</a>, Mon 17 Jan 2000, 23:51 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00113" HREF="msg00113.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, 
Dream Weaver at home <a href="mailto:windminstrel#home,net">windminstrel#home,net</a>, Tue 18 Jan 2000, 02:18 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00115" HREF="msg00115.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, 
Kevin Littlejohn <a href="mailto:darius#connect,com.au">darius#connect,com.au</a>, Tue 18 Jan 2000, 07:01 GMT
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