<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: RE: [MUD-Dev] Next gen MUD wishlist --> <!--X-From-R13: "Eryyref, [vpunry" <[EryyrefNznkvf.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:53:43 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: A538153C8E25D11192FA00805F159595026128F3@JETHRO --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, RE: [MUD-Dev] Next gen MUD wishlist</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00458.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00460.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00463.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00460.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00459">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00459">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00459">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>RE: [MUD-Dev] Next gen MUD wishlist</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: "'<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>'" <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: RE: [MUD-Dev] Next gen MUD wishlist</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Sellers, Michael" <<A HREF="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:39:08 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Adam wrote: > Which begs the question, of course: what really IS the next > generation? > > Is it simply more scalability, so that instead of 500 people online we go > to 500,000? > > Is it more immersive worlds via graphics and sound? > > Is it more malleable worlds, with more 'realistic' entity interactions, and > especially more complex player<->world interactions? > > Is it better tools for organizing societies within the mud world, so that > players can better interact with each other? > > Is it enhanced building/scripting tools so that huge, complex, dynamic worlds > can be created without requiring thousands of work-hours of effort? > > These are not retorical questions. I'm wondering what really IS important > to both players and developers. And these are high-level questions: > answers like "cross-platform migratable server processes" or "an arbitrarily > large, spinlockable disk-based DB" are not what I have in mind. These > are simply methods to achieve a goal - what is that goal, for the people > on this list? I think the answers to these questions are going to vary by developer. For myself, I'd say the answer to the above questions are "yes." Of course, YMMV. One other thought: I haven't seen the new NeverWinter Nights so I don't know what they actually have... but maybe the next-next-generation of MUDs will allow developers to finally ignore the low-level questions (e.g., "spinlockable disk-based DBs") and focus on the game itself. What if you had usable tools that enabled you to put together something like a subset of Asheron's Call, but using your own system, locations, NPCs, and story arcs? *That* IMO will be seriously cool. Dunno how long it'll take us to get there though. Mike Sellers _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00460" HREF="msg00460.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Next gen MUD wishlist</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> <adam#treyarch,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00458.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Next gen MUD wishlist</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00460.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Next gen MUD wishlist</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00463.html">[MUD-Dev] Distribution</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00460.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Next gen MUD wishlist</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00459"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00459"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00465" HREF="msg00465.html">[MUD-Dev] (fwd) ADMIN: "A Classification Of Muds" [was 'In defence of stock muds...']</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 24 Feb 2000, 03:54 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00464" HREF="msg00464.html">[MUD-Dev] (fwd) Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases (was: help me find 100% free graphical mud)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 24 Feb 2000, 03:50 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00462" HREF="msg00462.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #288 - 9 msgs</A></strong>, Dr. Cat <a href="mailto:cat#realtime,net">cat#realtime,net</a>, Thu 24 Feb 2000, 03:45 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00463" HREF="msg00463.html">[MUD-Dev] Distribution</A></strong>, Geir Harald Hansen <a href="mailto:geirhans#ifi,uio.no">geirhans#ifi,uio.no</a>, Thu 24 Feb 2000, 03:45 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00459" HREF="msg00459.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Next gen MUD wishlist</A></strong>, Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Wed 23 Feb 2000, 18:53 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00460" HREF="msg00460.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Next gen MUD wishlist</A></strong>, adam <a href="mailto:adam#treyarch,com">adam#treyarch,com</a>, Thu 24 Feb 2000, 03:45 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00454" HREF="msg00454.html">[MUD-Dev] Newbies</A></strong>, Johan J Ingles-le Nobel <a href="mailto:xvf61#dial,pipex.com">xvf61#dial,pipex.com</a>, Tue 22 Feb 2000, 22:56 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00455" HREF="msg00455.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Newbies</A></strong>, David Bennett <a href="mailto:ddt#discworld,imaginary.com">ddt#discworld,imaginary.com</a>, Tue 22 Feb 2000, 23:58 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00466" HREF="msg00466.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Newbies</A></strong>, MichelleThompson <a href="mailto:m.a.thompson#mindspring,com">m.a.thompson#mindspring,com</a>, Thu 24 Feb 2000, 05:12 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>