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<LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>&gt;</LI>
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Matthew Mihaly wrote:
&gt; Like the way people generally tend to act? Given that I have yet to meet
&gt; someone who does not bend morality to fit circumstances, it's hardly a
&gt; surprise that admins do it. Christians are against murder, unless it's
&gt; done on a really large scale it seems. 

There there Matt.  You need to find another bogeyman to beat.  At least dare
I suggest, "publicly".  We Christians haven't been let on a really good rampage 
in such a long time.  The last two centuries have been quite the party for 
the "enlightened atheist".   Yeah I know, atheists are against murder, but they 
seem to do it on an incredibly really large scale.  They do put the E in 
efficiency.  Now I'll stop here and apology in advance for my bigotry and 
stereotyping.   

Anyhow isn't this the anti-thesis of the topic "Community Relations".  Presumably 
WE want better relations not worse.  The collective WE, meaning mud-dev is
frankly interested in better relations.  Ooops, that's a mistake, eh?  I mean what 
right do I have to even begin to speak for such a diverse group.  Anti-patterns of 
mud administration are good fodder I think, and appropriate in the realm of what 
not to do.  Defending a bad example in the context of the rights of an administrator 
to do it, doesn't really turn bad around to good, nor does it prevent a sort of 
community judgment or consensus forming that "doing X is a bad thing".   
Nor is community consensus always a bad thing.  I acknowledge there can be a 
lot of corner cases here, where the beneficial qualities of some administrative 
actions aren't immediately obvious.

The bottom line is 90% of players don't enjoy being f**ked around with by
some sadistic psychotic administrator.  And 90% of us don't plan to run 
our muds like the Marquis de Sade.  So is arguing about the legal rights and
morality of the 10% relevant?  Do WE think they are entitled to some sort of 
social justice or community respect?

&gt; I have no problem at all with
&gt; infanticide, or just leaving a baby outside to die of the elements, for
&gt; instance, providing it is your baby.

We all have these odd beliefs and opinions.  I happen to think that the 37 million 
babies that have been murdered in the last 25 years in the US is sickening.  
It's a peculiar notion I hold, that is frankly beyond debate.  

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00172" HREF="msg00172.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Community Relations</A></strong>, 
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Thu 20 Jan 2000, 02:34 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00177" HREF="msg00177.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Community Relations</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00198" HREF="msg00198.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Community Relations</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 21 Jan 2000, 03:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00208" HREF="msg00208.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Community Relations</A></strong>, 
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