<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: RE: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline --> <!--X-From-R13: "Eryyref, [vpunry" <[EryyrefNznkvf.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 08:38:32 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: A538153C8E25D11192FA00805F159595026129C7@JETHRO --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, RE: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00614.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00616.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00624.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00617.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00615">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00615">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00615">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>RE: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: "'<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>'" <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: RE: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Sellers, Michael" <<A HREF="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:31:23 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> JC wrote: > The problem with that view is that it ignores the various things > that EQ did and are doing that were new and interesting (see > previous threads and some of the discussions at the dinner), or that > DIKU, for all the things it did "wrong", it also did a great many > things very right -- there are very good reasons for its popularity > after all. One of the interesting things Brad McQuaid said in our tutorial was that in making EQ, Verant didn't set out to make an innovative, cutting-edge game experience: they consciously went for the hack-n-slash, class-based, combat game experience. So I guess they hit what they were aiming at, and are justifiably proud of the size of their player-base (edging up on 200,000). OTOH, as Jonathan Baron pointed out in his "Heat into Light" talk, even numbers like that are nothing to be all that proud of: even the *worst* infomercial on at 4am regularly whomps us in terms of viewers (and probably in terms of paying customers). Mike Sellers _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev mailing list MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00617" HREF="msg00617.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Matthew Mihaly <diablo#best,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00614.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] javascript</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00616.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] CGDC dinner</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00624.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00617.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00615"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00615"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00607" HREF="msg00607.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></strong>, Derek Snider <a href="mailto:derek#idirect,com">derek#idirect,com</a>, Wed 15 Mar 2000, 00:41 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00611" HREF="msg00611.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Wed 15 Mar 2000, 07:20 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00623" HREF="msg00623.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 16 Mar 2000, 05:51 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00624" HREF="msg00624.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></strong>, Ryan Palacio <a href="mailto:rpalacio#verant,com">rpalacio#verant,com</a>, Thu 16 Mar 2000, 05:42 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00615" HREF="msg00615.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></strong>, Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Wed 15 Mar 2000, 16:38 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00617" HREF="msg00617.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Thu 16 Mar 2000, 02:15 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00517" HREF="msg00517.html">[MUD-Dev] Processor Usage</A></strong>, Christopher Kohnert <a href="mailto:cjkohner#brain,uccs.edu">cjkohner#brain,uccs.edu</a>, Fri 03 Mar 2000, 16:52 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00521" HREF="msg00521.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Processor Usage</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sat 04 Mar 2000, 00:12 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00526" HREF="msg00526.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Processor Usage</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greearb#candelatech,com">greearb#candelatech,com</a>, Sat 04 Mar 2000, 01:10 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>