<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Databases (was Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases) --> <!--X-From-R13: Quneyrf Vhturf <puneyrf.uhturfNovtsbbg.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 17:56:33 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 01BF5F7A.CD766340.charles.hughes#bigfoot,com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Databases (was Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Co</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:charles.hughes#bigfoot,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00093.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00094.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00245.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00242.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00096">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00096">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00096">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Databases (was Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: "'<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>'" <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Databases (was Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Charles Hughes <<A HREF="mailto:charles.hughes#bigfoot,com">charles.hughes#bigfoot,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 17:06:02 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Friday, January 14, 2000 11:29 PM, J C Lawrence [SMTP:claw#kanga,nu] wrote: > Assuming the code actually works, there is a gang of people here at > Cambridge threatening to write all the other bits. The division we see > is roughly: socket code, database/memory management, parser, game > mechanics. > I expect the game mechanics stuff not to be under the LGPL, unlike the > other bits. What's more important than the bits themselves is the > interface between them. In particular, I think the best approach would be > to see what can be taken OUT of a mud (socket stuff, database management) > and separating that, rather than imposing some a priori design structure > on the whole thing and then finding that it doesn't work (e.g., the way > someone might want to implement an internal MUD language might cut > across both parser and game mechanics...)) At the risk of being slapped by a mackerel, who here really thinks they can do a better database design than those afforded by the likes of the free or commercial databases? [I'll ask those here who've actually worked on these databases not to chime in. :)] It seems to me that segregating the database issues and then simply using a database is far better than creating a new one. This would change the "databases/memory management" division above into two divisions - database usage, memory management. Yes? No? _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00242" HREF="msg00242.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Databases (was Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> J C Lawrence <claw#kanga,nu></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00093.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Community Relations</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00094.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Question about multithreaded servers</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00245.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00242.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Databases (was Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00096"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00096"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00112" HREF="msg00112.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, Laurent Bossavit <a href="mailto:bossavit#cybercable,fr">bossavit#cybercable,fr</a>, Mon 17 Jan 2000, 23:51 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00113" HREF="msg00113.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, Dream Weaver at home <a href="mailto:windminstrel#home,net">windminstrel#home,net</a>, Tue 18 Jan 2000, 02:18 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00115" HREF="msg00115.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, Kevin Littlejohn <a href="mailto:darius#connect,com.au">darius#connect,com.au</a>, Tue 18 Jan 2000, 07:01 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00245" HREF="msg00245.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sun 30 Jan 2000, 21:45 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00096" HREF="msg00096.html">[MUD-Dev] Databases (was Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases)</A></strong>, Charles Hughes <a href="mailto:charles.hughes#bigfoot,com">charles.hughes#bigfoot,com</a>, Sun 16 Jan 2000, 01:56 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00242" HREF="msg00242.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Databases (was Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sun 30 Jan 2000, 21:21 GMT </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00099" HREF="msg00099.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Databases (was Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases)</A></strong>, cg <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 16 Jan 2000, 18:59 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00106" HREF="msg00106.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Databases (was Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases)</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 17 Jan 2000, 19:52 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00109" HREF="msg00109.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Databases (was Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases)</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 17 Jan 2000, 22:02 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>