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<LI><em>From</em>: Charles Hughes &lt;<A HREF="mailto:charles.hughes#bigfoot,com">charles.hughes#bigfoot,com</A>&gt;</LI>
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On Friday, January 14, 2000 11:29 PM, J C Lawrence [SMTP:claw#kanga,nu] 
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&gt; Assuming the code actually works, there is a gang of people here at
&gt; Cambridge threatening to write all the other bits. The division we see
&gt; is roughly: socket code, database/memory management, parser, game
&gt; mechanics.
&gt; I expect the game mechanics stuff not to be under the LGPL, unlike the
&gt; other bits. What's more important than the bits themselves is the
&gt; interface between them. In particular, I think the best approach would be
&gt; to see what can be taken OUT of a mud (socket stuff, database management)
&gt; and separating that, rather than imposing some a priori design structure
&gt; on the whole thing and then finding that it doesn't work (e.g., the way
&gt; someone might want to implement an internal MUD language might cut
&gt; across both parser and game mechanics...))

At the risk of being slapped by a mackerel, who here really thinks they
can do a better database design than those afforded by the likes of the
free or commercial databases?  [I'll ask those here who've actually
worked on these databases not to chime in. :)]

It seems to me that segregating the database issues and then simply using
a database is far better than creating a new one.  This would change
the "databases/memory management" division above into two divisions -
database usage, memory management.

Yes? No?




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<LI><strong><A NAME="00112" HREF="msg00112.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, 
Laurent Bossavit <a href="mailto:bossavit#cybercable,fr">bossavit#cybercable,fr</a>, Mon 17 Jan 2000, 23:51 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00113" HREF="msg00113.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, 
Dream Weaver at home <a href="mailto:windminstrel#home,net">windminstrel#home,net</a>, Tue 18 Jan 2000, 02:18 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00115" HREF="msg00115.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, 
Kevin Littlejohn <a href="mailto:darius#connect,com.au">darius#connect,com.au</a>, Tue 18 Jan 2000, 07:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00245" HREF="msg00245.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sun 30 Jan 2000, 21:45 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00242" HREF="msg00242.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Databases (was Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases)</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00099" HREF="msg00099.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Databases (was Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases)</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00106" HREF="msg00106.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Databases (was Re: Commercial-use Restrictions on Code Bases)</A></strong>, 
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