<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems (response to J C) --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNpc.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:24:17 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: E12Zire-0001Xz-00#under,eng.cp.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.BSF.4.21.0003271018190.16458-100000#shell9,ba.best.com --> <!--X-Reference: E12ZeXA-0007is-00#under,eng.cp.net --> <!--X-Reference: 38DFEAAD.559#writeme,com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems (response to J C)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#cp,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00746.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00748.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00746.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00727.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00747">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00747">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00747">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems (response to J C)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems (response to J C) </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:24:06 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Writing as list owner: There's been some traffic off-list on this area, so I'll expand a little on what I'm looking for here: On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:11:42 -0500 scott guzman <shade2x#writeme,com> wrote: > Matthew Mihaly <diablo#best,com> wrote: >> You were banned for repeatedly... > J C Lawrence responded: >> Writing as list owner: >> >> This thread has the potential for getting personal. Let's keep >> away from that aspect. > This thread -is- personal, but has a whole lot of potential value > as a topic. Writing as list owner: I agree. > Yes, Matthew is saying that he was justified; I'd like to attempt > to show that he wasn't and in the process, attempt to show that > certain practices when thinking of banning someone are detrimental > to the health of a mud. I understand your intent and am willing to allow that aspect of the thread as long as the following remain true: -- No he_said/she_said. -- No I'm_right/You're_wrong. -- No egos/personalities ala: "But it wasn't fair!", "He doesn't like me!" I have no problem with using this case for a sample dissection. My concern is signal, both short term for this thread, and long term in the effects it will have on future threads. > So yes, it's personal, but I think that that shouldn't detract > from the fact that this is a conversation that would greatly > benefit mud-dev. I hope you'll agree.. Certainly, but with the above caveats. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#kanga,nu ----------(*) Internet: coder#kanga,nu ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev mailing list MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00732" HREF="msg00732.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Matthew Mihaly <diablo#best,com></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00733" HREF="msg00733.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> J C Lawrence <claw#cp,net></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00746" HREF="msg00746.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems (response to J C)</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> scott guzman <shade2x#writeme,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00746.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems (response to J C)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00748.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Object and class heirarchies -- are they really necessary?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00746.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems (response to J C)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00727.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Gamasutra: Online Justice Systems</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00747"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00747"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00728" HREF="msg00728.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems</A></strong>, scott guzman <a href="mailto:shade2x#home,com">shade2x#home,com</a>, Mon 27 Mar 2000, 17:36 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00732" HREF="msg00732.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Mon 27 Mar 2000, 18:37 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00733" HREF="msg00733.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Mon 27 Mar 2000, 18:46 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00746" HREF="msg00746.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems (response to J C)</A></strong>, scott guzman <a href="mailto:shade2x#writeme,com">shade2x#writeme,com</a>, Mon 27 Mar 2000, 23:13 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00747" HREF="msg00747.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems (response to J C)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Mon 27 Mar 2000, 23:24 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00727" HREF="msg00727.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Gamasutra: Online Justice Systems</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Fri 24 Mar 2000, 17:56 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00734" HREF="msg00734.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Gamasutra: Online Justice Systems</A></strong>, Sayeed <a href="mailto:yu219121#YorkU,CA">yu219121#YorkU,CA</a>, Mon 27 Mar 2000, 18:48 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00736" HREF="msg00736.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Gamasutra: Online Justice Systems</A></strong>, Todd McKimmey <a href="mailto:rufus#wombatgames,com">rufus#wombatgames,com</a>, Mon 27 Mar 2000, 19:45 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00739" HREF="msg00739.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Gamasutra: Online Justice Systems</A></strong>, AR Schleicher <a href="mailto:ars#iag,net">ars#iag,net</a>, Mon 27 Mar 2000, 20:16 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>