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<LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence &lt;<A HREF="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:24:06 -0800</LI>
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Writing as list owner:

  There's been some traffic off-list on this area, so I'll expand a
little on what I'm looking for here:

On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:11:42 -0500 
scott guzman &lt;shade2x#writeme,com&gt; wrote:

&gt; Matthew Mihaly &lt;diablo#best,com&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; You were banned for repeatedly...

&gt; J C Lawrence responded:
&gt;&gt; Writing as list owner:
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&gt;&gt; This thread has the potential for getting personal.  Let's keep
&gt;&gt; away from that aspect.

&gt; This thread -is- personal, but has a whole lot of potential value
&gt; as a topic. 

Writing as list owner:

  I agree.

&gt; Yes, Matthew is saying that he was justified; I'd like to attempt
&gt; to show that he wasn't and in the process, attempt to show that
&gt; certain practices when thinking of banning someone are detrimental
&gt; to the health of a mud. 

  I understand your intent and am willing to allow that aspect of
the thread as long as the following remain true:

    -- No he_said/she_said.

    -- No I'm_right/You're_wrong.

    -- No egos/personalities ala: "But it wasn't fair!", "He doesn't
       like me!"

  I have no problem with using this case for a sample dissection.
My concern is signal, both short term for this thread, and long term
in the effects it will have on future threads.

&gt; So yes, it's personal, but I think that that shouldn't detract
&gt; from the fact that this is a conversation that would greatly
&gt; benefit mud-dev. I hope you'll agree..

  Certainly, but with the above caveats.  

-- 
J C Lawrence                              Internet: claw#kanga,nu
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...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith...


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<LI><strong><A NAME="00728" HREF="msg00728.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems</A></strong>, 
scott guzman <a href="mailto:shade2x#home,com">shade2x#home,com</a>, Mon 27 Mar 2000, 17:36 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00732" HREF="msg00732.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00733" HREF="msg00733.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00746" HREF="msg00746.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems (response to J C)</A></strong>, 
scott guzman <a href="mailto:shade2x#writeme,com">shade2x#writeme,com</a>, Mon 27 Mar 2000, 23:13 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00747" HREF="msg00747.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Online Justice Systems (response to J C)</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Mon 27 Mar 2000, 23:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00727" HREF="msg00727.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Gamasutra: Online Justice Systems</A></strong>, 
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Fri 24 Mar 2000, 17:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00734" HREF="msg00734.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Gamasutra: Online Justice Systems</A></strong>, 
Sayeed <a href="mailto:yu219121#YorkU,CA">yu219121#YorkU,CA</a>, Mon 27 Mar 2000, 18:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00736" HREF="msg00736.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Gamasutra: Online Justice Systems</A></strong>, 
Todd McKimmey <a href="mailto:rufus#wombatgames,com">rufus#wombatgames,com</a>, Mon 27 Mar 2000, 19:45 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00739" HREF="msg00739.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Gamasutra: Online Justice Systems</A></strong>, 
AR Schleicher <a href="mailto:ars#iag,net">ars#iag,net</a>, Mon 27 Mar 2000, 20:16 GMT
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