<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline --> <!--X-From-R13: Fenivf Qnfrl <rsvaqryNvb.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 21:02:36 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 1932.000303#io,com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 11A17AA2B9EAD111BCEA00A0C9B4179303D6E38A#molach,origin.ea.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:efindel#io,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00533.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00534.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00525.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00546.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00536">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00536">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00536">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Travis Casey <<A HREF="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 22:22:41 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Friday, March 03, 2000, Koster, Raph wrote: > In response to Amy's request, here's my best assembled timeline. Apologies > for namedropping towards the end, but I was trying to figure out where > things went and tracking people was the easiest way to do it. Some questions/additions/notes: 1966 Lord of the Rings first published in the US (? -- I came across this while searching for some other things; don't know if it's correct.) > 1967 Advent: single-player text adventure, aka "Colossal Cave" b b Where did you get this date from? A couple of years back, I said on here that I thought Advent had pre-dated D&D, but was quickly shot down by people pointing me to references which stated that D&D was the inspiration for Advent. I'd be really happy if you're right -- it would support my own ideas about 'adventure games' being a separate line of development from 'roleplaying games.' 1970? Dave Arneson starts Blackmoor, the first RPG campaign. (Arneson states that he's unsure about whether this was in '70 or '71.) 1972 Second edition of Chainmail published, with the "Fantasy Supplement" -- the predecessor of D&D. 1973 D&D first sold (as typewritten rule sets) by Gygax and Arneson. 1974 first professional publication of D&D -- released in January 1975 Tunnels & Trolls by Ken St. Andre, second published RPG. 1977 First known use of the term "role-playing game". (In the "blue book" version of Basic D&D.) > 1978 MUD1 > Alan Klietz' writes Sceptre of Goth > AD&D Rules published Hmm... that depends on what you consider to be the rules. The Monster Manual was released in '77, the Player's Handbook was put out in '78 and the Dungeon Master's Guide in '79. Unlike the situation with 2nd edition, though, in 1st edition the majority of the rules were in the DMG -- the PH was basically just character creation and the spell lists. > 1994 WOO and then ChibaMOO > Dragonspires is opened by ex-Originite Dr Cat > News Corp buys Kesmai > Netscape makes the graphical browser accessible. That rings of marketing hype to me... Mosaic was not hard to use and existed for at least Unix and Windows before Netscape came out -- I think there was a Mac version pre-Netscape as well. Further, there were other web browsers that came out between Mosaic and Netscape that were graphical, easy to use, and easy to set up (at least, as easy as Netscape was when it first came out). Maybe "Netscape released" or "Netscape helps popularize the web"? I could add a ton of paper RPG dates, if you'd like them... the dates for Vampire and the other Storyteller games might be of some interest, considering the number of Vampire-based games out there. If there's any other paper RPG dates you'd like, just let me know. -- |\ _,,,---,,_ Travis S. Casey <efindel#io,com> ZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ No one agrees with me. Not even me. |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00525" HREF="msg00525.html">[MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Koster, Raph" <rkoster#origin,ea.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00533.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] randomly dropped connections</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00534.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Network Setup</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00525.html">[MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00546.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00536"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00536"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] CGDC dinner</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00658" HREF="msg00658.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] CGDC dinner</A></strong>, Suess123 <a href="mailto:Suess123#aol,com">Suess123#aol,com</a>, Sat 18 Mar 2000, 18:56 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00660" HREF="msg00660.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] CGDC dinner</A></strong>, Joel Dillon <a href="mailto:jo#trolltech,com">jo#trolltech,com</a>, Sun 19 Mar 2000, 18:25 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00542" HREF="msg00542.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: Ooops, damn...</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sat 04 Mar 2000, 19:57 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00525" HREF="msg00525.html">[MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Sat 04 Mar 2000, 01:10 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00536" HREF="msg00536.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></strong>, Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Sat 04 Mar 2000, 05:02 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00546" HREF="msg00546.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></strong>, Bruce <a href="mailto:bruce#puremagic,com">bruce#puremagic,com</a>, Sat 04 Mar 2000, 20:14 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00553" HREF="msg00553.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></strong>, Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Sun 05 Mar 2000, 00:17 GMT </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00532" HREF="msg00532.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></strong>, cg <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 04 Mar 2000, 02:21 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00543" HREF="msg00543.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] MUD timeline</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Sat 04 Mar 2000, 20:14 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>