<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: META: List goals (was Re: [MUD-Dev] OS Inspiration) --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNxnatn.ah> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:35:36 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: E12AU6p-0002DA-00#dingo,kanga.nu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 20000101174922.A12410#funky,monkey.org --> <!--X-Reference: 386F2431.45C78C72@classic-games.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, META: List goals (was Re: [MUD-Dev] OS Inspiration)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00118.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00120.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00021.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00013.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00119">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00119">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00119">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>META: List goals (was Re: [MUD-Dev] OS Inspiration)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: META: List goals (was Re: [MUD-Dev] OS Inspiration)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:35:27 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Sun, 02 Jan 2000 04:10:57 -0600 Greg Miller <gmiller#classic-games,com> wrote: > Threading is fairly popular on the list, but we don't have a > terribly large amount of agreement on how to go about it. __NOT__ writing as list owner: Having done a little survey of the rest of the MUDding public (lotsa probing about the web, Usenet, and half a dozen other MUD lists), the general view seems to be that MUD-Dev is a research establishment first and an educational venue second (lurkers benefit from the research we do). This probably best echoes my own interests and shouldn't be a surprise. (I don't think I have the patience or the interest to run an educational list, or that we'd keep many of our more, umm, august and entertaining members if I did). If we are going to take the research position, we need to be supremely careful of assumed othodoxies (nod Keegan). If the function of the list is to arrive at agreed upon dogma and recipes for "how something is done", we've failed before we've started. Currently we have at least four different threading models represented on the list, five different DB models, 3 different client/server models, half a dozen or more internal scripting languages, at least 3 OS platforms, 6 different social/cultural models, any of several score different target markets (Furcadia's target market is certainly not UOL's for instance), etc etc etc. This is a Good Thing. Difference is good. Knowing and understanding the implications of why that difference is there is even better. -- J C Lawrence Home: claw#kanga,nu ----------(*) Other: coder#kanga,nu --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=-- _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00014" HREF="msg00014.html">[MUD-Dev] OS Inspiration</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Phillip Lenhardt <philen#funky,monkey.org></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00021" HREF="msg00021.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OS Inspiration</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Greg Miller <gmiller#classic-games,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00118.html">[MUD-Dev] Valhalla license?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00120.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Storing tokens with flex & bison</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00021.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OS Inspiration</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00013.html">[MUD-Dev] JavaWorld: Build an object database</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00119"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00119"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00020" HREF="msg00020.html">[MUD-Dev] Chomsky's recursive theory of grammar</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sun 02 Jan 2000, 05:06 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00017" HREF="msg00017.html">[MUD-Dev] New link support</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sun 02 Jan 2000, 01:22 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00014" HREF="msg00014.html">[MUD-Dev] OS Inspiration</A></strong>, Phillip Lenhardt <a href="mailto:philen#funky,monkey.org">philen#funky,monkey.org</a>, Sun 02 Jan 2000, 01:05 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00021" HREF="msg00021.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OS Inspiration</A></strong>, Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</a>, Sun 02 Jan 2000, 17:26 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00119" HREF="msg00119.html">META: List goals (was Re: [MUD-Dev] OS Inspiration)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Tue 18 Jan 2000, 08:35 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00013" HREF="msg00013.html">[MUD-Dev] JavaWorld: Build an object database</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sat 01 Jan 2000, 20:51 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00012" HREF="msg00012.html">[MUD-Dev] Muq update</A></strong>, Cynbe ru Taren <a href="mailto:cynbe#muq,org">cynbe#muq,org</a>, Sat 01 Jan 2000, 20:14 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00004" HREF="msg00004.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Embedded languages, object persistance... ack.</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sat 01 Jan 2000, 19:03 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00046" HREF="msg00046.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Embedded languages, object persistance... ack.</A></strong>, Jay Carlson <a href="mailto:nop#mitre,org">nop#mitre,org</a>, Tue 04 Jan 2000, 01:28 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>