<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry --> <!--X-From-R13: [nggurj [vunyl <qvnoybNorfg.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:14:26 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.BSF.4.21.0002172257200.18751-100000#shell9,ba.best.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 10872.950849935#kanga,nu --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:diablo#best,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00410.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00412.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00405.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00412.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00411">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00411">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00411">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly <<A HREF="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:07:15 -0800 (PST)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, J C Lawrence wrote: > Unarguably both are physically capable of being equally "excellent" > for whatever your definition of "excellent" is. Further, I doubt > any of us would argue that there are "free" MUDs out there that are > of at least equal "quality" to the commercial offerings, taken as a > whole and not in specific aspects (we all have flaws) for whatever > your quality metrics are. However, (and I consider this a fairly > safe broad and sweeping generality) each has a different concept of > their target market, and their commitment to serving that market. I might also add that lumping all commercial muds together is a mistake. A small commercial mud is generally going after a considerably different market, and doing so in considerably different ways, from a large commercial mud. > You have to _name_, _want_, and _get_ your product. You also have to have the resources to execute your product. I don't see a hobbyist pulling off something equivalent to UO/AC/EQ. > How does all this plug into things like customer service, help > files, tech support, and such? On the one side purpose achievement > defines what level of assistance you need to provide to your terget > market and how important it is. Its a fairly simple equation all > told and on the commercial side there are money and resources on > hand (to some level) for making sure it is done. On the hobbyest > side however, its easy to overlook these "boring" things, and far > too easy (and attractive) to just dump them and tacitly reclassify > the target market as "people who can understand this stuff without > my help and none o' them luser idiots either". > Just how many OpenSource applications out there have decent > user-level documentation that a non-IT person has a chance of > understanding? Amen. A lot of programmers program for fun. I don't know anyone who writes documentation for fun. > ** I know of a highly profitable jazz (***) radio station, now sadly > closed, that had incredible key affluent demographic penetration. > Their total listening audience was not large, but it dominated > certain demographics. On that basis they were able to charge, and > easily get, fees for advertising that were fifteen or more times > that of local pop stations that had audiences of, literally, a > hundred times their size (but was mostly listed to by less affluent > teeangers/young couples, etc). This is exactly what I believe small commercial muds are good at, or can be good at. --matt _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00428" HREF="msg00428.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> <adam#treyarch,com></li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00413" HREF="msg00413.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Bruce <bruce#puremagic,com></li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00412" HREF="msg00412.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> J C Lawrence <claw#kanga,nu></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00405" HREF="msg00405.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> J C Lawrence <claw#kanga,nu></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00410.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00412.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00405.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00412.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00411"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00411"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00404" HREF="msg00404.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Justin Rogers <a href="mailto:justin#mlstoday,com">justin#mlstoday,com</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 03:25 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00407" HREF="msg00407.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 05:03 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00410" HREF="msg00410.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 05:59 GMT </LI> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00405" HREF="msg00405.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 04:59 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00411" HREF="msg00411.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 07:14 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00412" HREF="msg00412.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 07:35 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00415" HREF="msg00415.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 07:49 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00422" HREF="msg00422.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Bryce Harrington <a href="mailto:bryce#neptune,net">bryce#neptune,net</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 17:43 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00426" HREF="msg00426.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 20:44 GMT </LI> </LI> </LI> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>