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<LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly &lt;<A HREF="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:00:45 -0800 (PST)</LI>
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, MichelleThompson wrote:

&gt; 3).  Why not do the mud school differently?  Instead of a small area where
&gt; people go thorugh and type look sign, look sign .............
&gt; Use mobs with prog, procs, or scripts (whichever you call them) that the
&gt; players follow and then the mob teaches the players.  Ie when they log on, they
&gt; talk to Eran, he leds them to the key shops in town, and explains how to
&gt; purchase things, not to fight in town, at least not in sight of guards,
&gt; anything that would fall logically into town information that you would want a
&gt; newbie to know.  Yuri would lead them to some of the close newbie areas and
&gt; explain about fighting.  Would he show them by doing a kill with them?  There
&gt; could be a mob that specailizes in whatever you needed.   One problem
&gt; presented by this suggestion: how do you keep jerks from killing the newbie
&gt; helpers? Questions that arise from this system:  Would a mob be able to take a
&gt; person on tours as often as they like, or would they do it only once?  If they
&gt; do it more than once, how do you make sure something is there for a newbie if
&gt; the key contacts are occupied by other newbies?  Actually, that question
&gt; applies whether they do it more than once or not. If they only do it once, the
&gt; mob has to retain a memory of who it has helped.  Is doing it only once not
&gt; worth it for that reason?  Should it be restricted by level instead?  Ie, they
&gt; can spot inexperience a mile a way.  This is something is just thought up so
&gt; please forgive the ramblings.  What would make it more interesting than a mud
&gt; school?  You have seen how there are mage_progs, thief_progs, warrior_progs
&gt; etc?  Why not include social progs?  Ie how would someone with a shy_prog react
&gt; if someone slapped them?  Now how about someone with a bully prog?  I have seen
&gt; generic progs that people attached to mobs that made them react to what players
&gt; did to them, but I have not seen any that would impart a specific character
&gt; to that mob. 

A number of muds (including mine, Achaea), already do this to some extent
or another. When you create a character in Achaea, you are presented with
the option of taking a newbie introduction, which takes .5 to 1 hour to
complete, approximately. The newbie gets led on a series of quests, such
as going into a 'dangerous' dungeon with an adventurer (adventurer gets
attacked and slain by goblins, and the newbie gets menaced, but a nice
paladin comes by to rescue said newbie), one that teaches you how to use
shops, etc. It's easy to stop jerks from killing these NPCs. Only the
newbie who they are for can see them or interact with them.


I'm unsure what you mean about progs imparting a specific character to a
mob. We've got lots of progs, most of which are only used by a single,
specific mob. I know we aren't unique in that....
--matt




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<LI><STRONG>RE: [MUD-Dev] Next gen MUD wishlist</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00460" HREF="msg00460.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Next gen MUD wishlist</A></strong>, 
adam <a href="mailto:adam#treyarch,com">adam#treyarch,com</a>, Thu 24 Feb 2000, 03:45 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00454" HREF="msg00454.html">[MUD-Dev] Newbies</A></strong>, 
Johan J Ingles-le Nobel <a href="mailto:xvf61#dial,pipex.com">xvf61#dial,pipex.com</a>, Tue 22 Feb 2000, 22:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00455" HREF="msg00455.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Newbies</A></strong>, 
David Bennett <a href="mailto:ddt#discworld,imaginary.com">ddt#discworld,imaginary.com</a>, Tue 22 Feb 2000, 23:58 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00466" HREF="msg00466.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Newbies</A></strong>, 
MichelleThompson <a href="mailto:m.a.thompson#mindspring,com">m.a.thompson#mindspring,com</a>, Thu 24 Feb 2000, 05:12 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00467" HREF="msg00467.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Newbies</A></strong>, 
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Thu 24 Feb 2000, 17:20 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00469" HREF="msg00469.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Newbies</A></strong>, 
MichelleThompson <a href="mailto:m.a.thompson#mindspring,com">m.a.thompson#mindspring,com</a>, Fri 25 Feb 2000, 01:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00468" HREF="msg00468.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Newbies</A></strong>, 
Richard Ross <a href="mailto:rross#rross,eurobell.co.uk">rross#rross,eurobell.co.uk</a>, Thu 24 Feb 2000, 17:20 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00456" HREF="msg00456.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Newbies</A></strong>, 
Geoffrey A. MacDougall <a href="mailto:geoffrey#poptronik,com">geoffrey#poptronik,com</a>, Tue 22 Feb 2000, 23:58 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00457" HREF="msg00457.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Newbies</A></strong>, 
Charles Hughes <a href="mailto:charles.hughes#bigfoot,com">charles.hughes#bigfoot,com</a>, Wed 23 Feb 2000, 00:51 GMT
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