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<LI><em>From</em>: Richard Woolcock <<A HREF="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:07:40 -0800</LI>
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Matthew Mihaly wrote:
> 
The majority of this discussion between you and myself has been snipped, 
because it's starting to get repetitive.  I can see where you're coming
from and don't disagree with it - but I don't think we'll ever share the
same views as our motivations are completely different.
> it sometimes ticks off the players, who would prefer we spend more time 
> doing exactly what they want. I'd get too bored running Achaea that way, 
> however. I have to remain amused as well as the players. That, to me, is 
> the great thing about running a small commercial world. As long as you 
> can maintain a certain level of quality, you can make money and still have 
> reasonable freedom to do what you want with it (of course, this assumes 
> that some segment of the mudding population shares your idea of what is 
> fun, but that is not unlikely I would say).
So basically you're a half-way-house between purely hobby and purely
commercial?
> > > Not arguing that, and I have no problem with quality free muds. If you
> > > want to cater to an audience of 100, go for it. Power to you.
> >
> > Actually I am catering to an audience of 1.  If anyone else wants to play,
> > more power to them - they're welcome to join me.
> 
> Ok, fair enough, but I guess to me, muds are about community, with most of
> the content being provided by the players. You just need to provide them
> with constructive ways to provide interesting content. I know that Achaea,
> for instnace, would be deathly boring with only 1 person.
I cater to an audience of 1 - but that doesn't mean my mud only has one
player.  Certainly if that were the case it would lose out on the main
purpose of a MUD - to be Multi-User.  The difference is that the players
who come to my mud do so because they playing within my definition of what
makes a good mud - not because I've tried to lure them in by making the
mud follow their own definition.
> > > My only reasoning for thinking that codebases should remove commercial
> > > restrictions is that money provides the best motivator
> >
> > And this is the root of our disagreement.  I make plenty of money from
> > my real life job - creating the mud is my hobby and my escape from the
> > pressures of other people.  You make your money from your mud.
> 
> Right, you have a job. You can't spend 50 hours a week and employ other
> people to work 50 hours a week on your mud. Chances are, if you were
> independently wealthy, you'd still not spend 50 hours a week working on
> your mud. I don't know what you do, but if you were independently wealthy,
> do you really think you'd work as hard, as regularly, and as steadily at
> your job as you do now?
I'd probably put the same about of time into my hobbies - one of which
is building my mud.
KaVir.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00428" HREF="msg00428.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
adam <a href="mailto:adam#treyarch,com">adam#treyarch,com</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 22:34 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00438" HREF="msg00438.html">[MUD-Dev] Dynamic help files, was Re: code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Sun 20 Feb 2000, 19:34 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00395" HREF="msg00395.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Thu 17 Feb 2000, 20:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00400" HREF="msg00400.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Thu 17 Feb 2000, 23:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00424" HREF="msg00424.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 19:16 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00427" HREF="msg00427.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 20:44 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00432" HREF="msg00432.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
MichelleThompson <a href="mailto:m.a.thompson#mindspring,com">m.a.thompson#mindspring,com</a>, Sat 19 Feb 2000, 17:36 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00396" HREF="msg00396.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00408" HREF="msg00408.html">[MUD-Dev] OT: Money as motivator (was Re: code base inquiry )</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Fri 18 Feb 2000, 05:36 GMT
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