<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: RE: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK --> <!--X-From-R13: Oqnz Ivttvaf <nqnzNnatry.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:56:06 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.SGI.3.96.990929110926.6835A-100000#zazu,angel.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.GSU.4.10.9909290145530.3693-100000@inet5 --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, RE: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:adam#angel,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00524.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00526.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00521.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00360.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00525">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00525">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00525">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>RE: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: "'<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>'" <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: RE: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Adam Wiggins <<A HREF="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:14:47 -0700 (PDT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Chris Turner wrote: > On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Adam Wiggins wrote: > [Example of Bubba getting his unsheathed weapons confiscated by guard] > > Nice, if a little artificial. When it comes to stuff like this, I like to follow K.I.S.S (Keep It Simple, Stupid) - at least when suggesting ideas for other people's muds. For one, it makes them more likely to consider implementing it, as it's less daunting. Second, it offer fewer loopholes. Players have a way of getting past this stuff with alarming regularity. I think it was the same mud where the guards would drag you in for having bared weapons that people wanted to get the guard's equipment (they had something reasonably good). Of course, killing a guard made you an enemy of the city. So they'd fight them down to mortally wounded, then go and sit in the other room and wait for them to die. > I'd be kinda annoyed if the game didn't give > me a chance not to lose the weapon or to dive past the guard. But then I've > never really like Diku's super level 200 invicible guards. Hmmmm, in my experience the guards are way too wimpy. You can usually kill them with a backstab or so if they get in your way. > I think it'd be > more fun to be able to evade capture and have to flee through the city > streets trying to find a safe haven (cos mobs shouldn't be able to > automatically find you). Well sure, I guess it depends how much work you want to put into it. If you just want to try to make the town a little safer for stamp collectors and tailors and then move onto writing a new zone or something, the above is going to be a hell of a lot of overkill. > Maybe players could set (a'la wimpy) something that states how aggressive > they are so the game can respond accordingly to threatening acts. Yeah, I've done this before, too. On that mud, there were a lot of 'aggressive' acts you could perform on people that weren't combat. For example, socials had a "touch level". Socials with a high tough value had a good chance of conveying contageous disease (if either of the people have such a thing), as well as being a good way for thieves to pickpocket you. In addition, people could wear cloaks (concealing their identity), and you could type "uncloak" to try to yank down their hood and reveal them. Each person sets their reaction level to such things - a very paranoid person would set it at maximum and would dodge out of the way if anyone tried to so much as shake their hand. So you could easily apply that to this situation. Adam _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00521" HREF="msg00521.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Chris Turner <christ#rd,bbc.co.uk></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00524.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] "Online migration and population mobility"</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00526.html">[MUD-Dev] DIVE</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00521.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00360.html">[MUD-Dev] chess</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00525"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00525"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00493" HREF="msg00493.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</a>, Fri 24 Sep 1999, 18:32 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00515" HREF="msg00515.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Charles Hughes <a href="mailto:charles.hughes#bigfoot,com">charles.hughes#bigfoot,com</a>, Tue 28 Sep 1999, 02:10 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00519" HREF="msg00519.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Wed 29 Sep 1999, 00:07 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00521" HREF="msg00521.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Chris Turner <a href="mailto:christ#rd,bbc.co.uk">christ#rd,bbc.co.uk</a>, Wed 29 Sep 1999, 01:40 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00525" HREF="msg00525.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Thu 30 Sep 1999, 04:56 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00360" HREF="msg00360.html">[MUD-Dev] chess</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Fri 17 Sep 1999, 17:50 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00375" HREF="msg00375.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: chess</A></strong>, Robin Cloutman <a href="mailto:rycochet#free4all,co.uk">rycochet#free4all,co.uk</a>, Fri 17 Sep 1999, 21:29 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00338" HREF="msg00338.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Attracting players // TMC // 'admin' type reviewing</A></strong>, Ilya, Game Commandos <a href="mailto:Ilya#gamecommandos,com">Ilya#gamecommandos,com</a>, Thu 16 Sep 1999, 22:40 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00361" HREF="msg00361.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Attracting players // TMC // 'admin' type reviewing</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#varesearch,com">claw#varesearch,com</a>, Fri 17 Sep 1999, 19:21 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>