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<LI><em>From</em>: "Koster, Raph" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</A>&gt;</LI>
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&gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: AR Schleicher [<A  HREF="mailto:ars#nwu,edu">mailto:ars#nwu,edu</A>]
&gt; Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 7:20 PM
&gt; To: mud-dev#kanga,nu
&gt; Subject: RE: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?
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&gt; At 06:08 PM 7/20/99 -0500, Koster, Raph wrote:
&gt; 
&gt; &gt;The basic initial tool is memory snooping to alter 
&gt; client-side memory. This
&gt; &gt;is easily done by running your client within a process that 
&gt; is acting as a
&gt; &gt;debugger. If you're foolish enough to trust the client, 
&gt; there's quite a lot
&gt; &gt;that can be done here. We didn't trust the client, so all 
&gt; they can do is
&gt; &gt;change the local appearance of things on their screen. 
&gt; 
&gt; Just to clear things up here, this should really be:  "We trusted the
&gt; client at first, but realized how foolish this was, and have 
&gt; since stopped
&gt; trusting it.", or "We don't trust the client anymore, ..."  
&gt; UO has improved
&gt; quite a bit as time has gone by.

Well, we went into it with the mindset of "we don't trust the client." But
it is frighteningly easy to slip up. :)


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<LI><strong><A NAME="00083" HREF="msg00083.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, 
Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Mon 09 Aug 1999, 16:58 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00084" HREF="msg00084.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00022" HREF="msg00022.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, 
Timothy O'Neill Dang <a href="mailto:timothy#nmia,com">timothy#nmia,com</a>, Thu 22 Jul 1999, 21:00 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00035" HREF="msg00035.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, 
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Fri 23 Jul 1999, 01:02 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00010" HREF="msg00010.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, 
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 21 Jul 1999, 14:38 GMT
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Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</a>, Wed 21 Jul 1999, 16:28 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00013" HREF="msg00013.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, 
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Thu 22 Jul 1999, 00:55 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00078" HREF="msg00078.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, 
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Tue 03 Aug 1999, 00:27 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00079" HREF="msg00079.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, 
Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</a>, Tue 03 Aug 1999, 16:27 GMT
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