<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation? --> <!--X-From-R13: Qnyvona Fverfvnf Rnexybpx <pnyvonaNqnexybpx.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:42:21 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 4.1.19990811101519.0097fe00#pop,darklock.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 00b001bee3a6$b990bf60$020101df@JonLambert --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00089.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00091.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00087.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00089.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00090">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00090">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00090">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Caliban Tiresias Darklock <<A HREF="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:39:28 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 11:07 PM 8/10/99 -0400, I personally witnessed Jon A. Lambert jumping up to say: > >Have you thought about using "upgrade paths", "prerequisites" and >"corequisites" similar to WarCraft, Civilization or Age of Empires. There is absolutely no sense to having prerequisites for equipment. That's like saying you can't buy Miracle Whip except as a mayonnaise upgrade. It's so ludicrous I refuse to even consider it. Would you play a MUD like this? Hey, I want a broad sword: >enter armory You go into the armory. >buy broad sword You need a long sword to trade for a broad sword. >buy long sword You need a short sword to trade for a long sword. >buy short sword You need a dagger to trade for a short sword. >buy dagger You need a club to trade for a dagger. >buy club You need a rock to trade for a club. >buy rock Rocks are not for sale here. >leave You leave the armory. >get rock You get a rock. >enter armory You go into the armory. >buy club You trade your rock for a club. >buy dagger You trade your club for a dagger. >buy short sword You trade your dagger for a short sword. >buy long sword You trade your short sword for a long sword. >buy broad sword You trade your long sword for a broad sword. >leave You leave the armory. >chat This game sucks a moldy sloth cock In the context of the games you mention, it's not purchasing equipment that has prerequisites. It's *creating* equipment. (Well, maybe not in Warcraft. I haven't played Warcraft in forever.) This is a wholly different animal. >In the year 2737, software vendors have perfected security >mechanisms. I already have *enough* problems with people wanting to side with the enemy, thank you. ;) ----- | Caliban Tiresias Darklock caliban#darklock,com | Darklock Communications <A HREF="http://www.darklock.com/">http://www.darklock.com/</A> | U L T I M A T E U N I V E R S E I S N O T D E A D | 774577496C6C6E457645727355626D4974H -=CABAL::3146=- _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00087" HREF="msg00087.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Jon A. 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Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 11 Aug 1999, 17:04 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00090" HREF="msg00090.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Wed 11 Aug 1999, 17:42 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00089" HREF="msg00089.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, Ilya, SCC, Game Commando <a href="mailto:Ilya#gamecommandos,com">Ilya#gamecommandos,com</a>, Wed 11 Aug 1999, 17:28 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00094" HREF="msg00094.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 12 Aug 1999, 18:11 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00099" HREF="msg00099.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, Martin C Sweitzer <a href="mailto:msew+@andrew.cmu.edu">msew+@andrew.cmu.edu</a>, Mon 16 Aug 1999, 16:50 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00003" HREF="msg00003.html">[MUD-Dev] ScryMUD release v1.9.10.</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Thu 08 Jul 1999, 06:05 GMT </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>