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<LI><em>To</em>: Caliban Tiresias Darklock &lt;<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Subject</em>: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Travis Casey &lt;<A HREF="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 11:15:43 -0400</LI>
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On Monday, September 20, 1999, Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote:
&gt; On 09:18 AM 9/20/1999 -0500, I personally witnessed Travis S. Casey jumping
&gt; up to say:

&gt;&gt;IMHO, the problem with "word-combination" spell systems is that finding
&gt;&gt;spells is being made a player-level puzzle, rather than something that's
&gt;&gt;done on the character-level.

&gt; I *like* player-level challenges!

I wasn't trying to say that player-level challenges are bad -- just
that, in this case, the problem people were discussing could be
avoided entirely by handling learning of spells on the character level
instead of the player level.

It's ultimately a case of designer judgement -- you may have a reason
for having learning spells be at the player level that makes you want
to do it in spite of having to find a way around the problem of
players trading information.  If you don't have such a reason, though,
you may want to simply have it be done at the character level.

&gt;&gt;At the player-level, players can help each
&gt;&gt;other out easily.  If spell knowledge is moved back to the
&gt;&gt;character-level, it becomes much easier to restrict.

&gt; Consider this.

[snip system]

I didn't say it was *impossible* to stop -- other people had already
suggested mechanisms that would work.  Just that moving it to
character level means you don't even have to make the effort.

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00396" HREF="msg00396.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, 
Wes Connell <a href="mailto:wconnell#adhesive,com">wconnell#adhesive,com</a>, Sat 18 Sep 1999, 02:00 GMT
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Travis S. Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Mon 20 Sep 1999, 17:06 GMT
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Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Mon 20 Sep 1999, 19:54 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00421" HREF="msg00421.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, 
Dundee <a href="mailto:SkeptAck#antisocial,com">SkeptAck#antisocial,com</a>, Mon 20 Sep 1999, 22:34 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00508" HREF="msg00508.html">Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, 
Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Mon 27 Sep 1999, 16:58 GMT
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Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 28 Sep 1999, 14:05 GMT
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Dundee <a href="mailto:SkeptAck#antisocial,com">SkeptAck#antisocial,com</a>, Fri 17 Sep 1999, 21:39 GMT
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Dundee <a href="mailto:SkeptAck#antisocial,com">SkeptAck#antisocial,com</a>, Fri 17 Sep 1999, 17:49 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00385" HREF="msg00385.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, 
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