<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing --> <!--X-From-R13: Fenivf Qnfrl <rsvaqryNvb.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:58:24 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 9469.990925#io,com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 4.1.19990920111131.00a0cc60#pop,darklock.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:efindel#io,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00502.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00507.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00421.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00518.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00508">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00508">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00508">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: Caliban Tiresias Darklock <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Travis Casey <<A HREF="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 11:15:43 -0400</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Monday, September 20, 1999, Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote: > On 09:18 AM 9/20/1999 -0500, I personally witnessed Travis S. Casey jumping > up to say: >>IMHO, the problem with "word-combination" spell systems is that finding >>spells is being made a player-level puzzle, rather than something that's >>done on the character-level. > I *like* player-level challenges! I wasn't trying to say that player-level challenges are bad -- just that, in this case, the problem people were discussing could be avoided entirely by handling learning of spells on the character level instead of the player level. It's ultimately a case of designer judgement -- you may have a reason for having learning spells be at the player level that makes you want to do it in spite of having to find a way around the problem of players trading information. If you don't have such a reason, though, you may want to simply have it be done at the character level. >>At the player-level, players can help each >>other out easily. If spell knowledge is moved back to the >>character-level, it becomes much easier to restrict. > Consider this. [snip system] I didn't say it was *impossible* to stop -- other people had already suggested mechanisms that would work. Just that moving it to character level means you don't even have to make the effort. -- |\ _,,,---,,_ Travis S. Casey <efindel#io,com> ZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ No one agrees with me. Not even me. |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00518" HREF="msg00518.html">Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00420" HREF="msg00420.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00502.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00507.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Dynamic muds</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00421.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00518.html">Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00508"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00508"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>RE: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00396" HREF="msg00396.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Wes Connell <a href="mailto:wconnell#adhesive,com">wconnell#adhesive,com</a>, Sat 18 Sep 1999, 02:00 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00411" HREF="msg00411.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Travis S. Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Mon 20 Sep 1999, 17:06 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00420" HREF="msg00420.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Mon 20 Sep 1999, 19:54 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00421" HREF="msg00421.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Dundee <a href="mailto:SkeptAck#antisocial,com">SkeptAck#antisocial,com</a>, Mon 20 Sep 1999, 22:34 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00508" HREF="msg00508.html">Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Mon 27 Sep 1999, 16:58 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00518" HREF="msg00518.html">Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 28 Sep 1999, 14:05 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00379" HREF="msg00379.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Dundee <a href="mailto:SkeptAck#antisocial,com">SkeptAck#antisocial,com</a>, Fri 17 Sep 1999, 21:39 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00365" HREF="msg00365.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Dundee <a href="mailto:SkeptAck#antisocial,com">SkeptAck#antisocial,com</a>, Fri 17 Sep 1999, 17:49 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00385" HREF="msg00385.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Robin Cloutman <a href="mailto:rycochet#free4all,co.uk">rycochet#free4all,co.uk</a>, Fri 17 Sep 1999, 21:20 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>