<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK --> <!--X-From-R13: [vebfyni Evybivp <fvybivpNmrfbv.sre.ue> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:32:21 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 7ebtasvh2n.fsf#zesoi,fer.hr --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 4.1.19990923174653.00b358d0#pop,darklock.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00497.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00496.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00486.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00515.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00493">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00493">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00493">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Miroslav Silovic <<A HREF="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: 24 Sep 1999 10:39:44 +0200</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com> writes: > On 02:29 PM 9/23/1999 -0700, I personally witnessed Ilya, Game Commandos > jumping up to say: > > >Yet another example, this time from the mush/mux/muse/muck community, > >that some people treat the term MUD as exclusive of those ideas. > >Fascinating. I've heard plenty from the MUD world who think of this > >barrier as present (mush/mux/muse/muck people aren't mudding). > > Well, to a large extent it's true. I think one of the major failures > in this community is to distinguish between MUSH in the game-server > heirarchy (TinyMUSH, PennMUSH, TinyMUX) and MUSH in the > game-objective arena (largely RP based as opposed to combat > based). Likewise, I think there should be a distinction between MUD > in the server heirarchy and MUD in the sense of a primarily > automated and combat-centric game environment. I like to use term hack&slash vs RPGs. The problem is that I also play (and admin) quote a few MOOs, which by definition aren't MUSHes and by the cited comments aren't MUDs. The fun starts when I try to classify Cold. :) -- How to eff the ineffable? _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00484" HREF="msg00484.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00497.html">[MUD-Dev] Peer pressure and cooperation</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00496.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Dynamic muds</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00486.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00515.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00493"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00493"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00510" HREF="msg00510.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Mon 27 Sep 1999, 22:02 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00482" HREF="msg00482.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Ilya, Game Commandos <a href="mailto:Ilya#gamecommandos,com">Ilya#gamecommandos,com</a>, Fri 24 Sep 1999, 00:40 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00484" HREF="msg00484.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Fri 24 Sep 1999, 00:57 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00486" HREF="msg00486.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Laurel Fan <a href="mailto:lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu">lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu</a>, Fri 24 Sep 1999, 03:21 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00493" HREF="msg00493.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</a>, Fri 24 Sep 1999, 18:32 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00515" HREF="msg00515.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Charles Hughes <a href="mailto:charles.hughes#bigfoot,com">charles.hughes#bigfoot,com</a>, Tue 28 Sep 1999, 02:10 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00519" HREF="msg00519.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Wed 29 Sep 1999, 00:07 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00521" HREF="msg00521.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Chris Turner <a href="mailto:christ#rd,bbc.co.uk">christ#rd,bbc.co.uk</a>, Wed 29 Sep 1999, 01:40 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00525" HREF="msg00525.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Thu 30 Sep 1999, 04:56 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>