<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology --> <!--X-From-R13: [nevna Uevssvgu <telcubaNvnrui.ay> --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:49:14 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Marcel-1.46-0729195804-0b0Ky&5#catling,demon.nl --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: E119BdP-0007r8-00#kanga,varesearch.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00071.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00073.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00066.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00101.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00072">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00072">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00072">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: Mud Dev Mailing list <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Marian Griffith <<A HREF="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:58:04 +0100 (BST)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> In <URL:<A HREF="news:local.muddev">news:local.muddev</A>> on Tue 27 Jul, Tony Wilkinson wrote: > I would hate to make animals invulnerable to player attack until a certain > age since that is not realistic but perhaps by not giving rewards for kills > (or even a small penalty) then this would encourage people not to harm > them. Of course I could be giving far too much credit to the population as > a whole :) I am afraid you are :) If you condition players to kill animals they will do that, even to the point of extinction of otherwise meaningless crea- tures. Besides, the world around is filled with mind boggling numbers of animals and there is no way you can even begin to simulate that. On the serengeti which is big, but not so big on an earth scale, there are thousands of large predators and hundreds of thousands of large prey animals. If you include the small animals you have a couple of thousand every square mile or so. If you include the minute species, well, every ant hill has some thousand ants. You can find a hundred thousand parasite in a single tree. Sticking to those numbers you would need for a game with hundred players (the top predator) ten thousand prey animals, and they in turn would need a thousand fold increase of -their- prey. Unless you make the game so big that it can accomodate such numbers and still allow the population appear sparse there is simply no way the ani- mals are going to outbreed their predators. Marian -- Yes - at last - You. I Choose you. Out of all the world, out of all the seeking, I have found you, young sister of my heart! You are mine and I am yours - and never again will there be loneliness ... Rolan Choosing Talia, Arrows of the Queen, by Mercedes Lackey _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00101" HREF="msg00101.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Par Winzell <zell#alyx,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00066" HREF="msg00066.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Tony Wilkinson" <tony.wilkinson#dial,pipex.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00071.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] mud vs. mush membership</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00073.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00066.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00101.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00072"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00072"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00060" HREF="msg00060.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</A></strong>, Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</a>, Mon 26 Jul 1999, 23:50 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00143" HREF="msg00143.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</A></strong>, Brandon J. Rickman <a href="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</a>, Thu 26 Aug 1999, 00:05 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00059" HREF="msg00059.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</A></strong>, Schubert, Damion <a href="mailto:dschubert#origin,ea.com">dschubert#origin,ea.com</a>, Mon 26 Jul 1999, 23:49 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00066" HREF="msg00066.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</A></strong>, Tony Wilkinson <a href="mailto:tony.wilkinson#dial,pipex.com">tony.wilkinson#dial,pipex.com</a>, Tue 27 Jul 1999, 18:36 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00072" HREF="msg00072.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Thu 29 Jul 1999, 19:49 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00101" HREF="msg00101.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</A></strong>, Par Winzell <a href="mailto:zell#alyx,com">zell#alyx,com</a>, Mon 16 Aug 1999, 18:00 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00128" HREF="msg00128.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</A></strong>, Felix A. Croes <a href="mailto:felix#dworkin,nl">felix#dworkin,nl</a>, Tue 24 Aug 1999, 02:38 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00134" HREF="msg00134.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</A></strong>, Chris Turner <a href="mailto:christ#rd,bbc.co.uk">christ#rd,bbc.co.uk</a>, Wed 25 Aug 1999, 01:30 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00137" HREF="msg00137.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Virtual Ecology</A></strong>, Ling Lo <a href="mailto:ling#frost,slimy.com">ling#frost,slimy.com</a>, Wed 25 Aug 1999, 20:21 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>