<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article --> <!--X-From-R13: Qlaor eh Fnera <plaorNzhd.bet> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:51:36 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199908311732.MAA17274#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:cynbe#muq,org"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00154.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00158.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00190.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00163.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00156">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00156">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00156">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Cynbe ru Taren <<A HREF="mailto:cynbe#muq,org">cynbe#muq,org</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:32:32 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> | rezo#darkstar,qx.net wrote: | | On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, Marian Griffith wrote: | > | > There is no such thing as an emergent girl game market. There is only the | > anti-girl marketing. | | Those two paragraphs just summed up why few game designers aim for the | female market. It is a hard target. | | [...] | | The single biggest explanation for why game companies don't aim at girls, | though, is that they really don't know how. Marketing 101 tells you that if | they could make a game guaranteed to sell 100,000 copies to girls they | would. | | Sterling @ Wyld Knight Remember Purple Moon? My wife's thesis advisor was a principal, and our hedgehogs modelled for one game. Purple Moon wrote specifically for the female gamer market (the name was picked as deliberate "anti-boy marketing", to adapt Marian's phrase) and the principals lacked neither smarts nor motivation. My guess is that "It is a hard target." hits it right on the nose. Cynbe _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00154.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00158.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00190.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00163.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00156"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00156"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00186" HREF="msg00186.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article</A></strong>, Laurel Fan <a href="mailto:lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu">lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu</a>, Fri 03 Sep 1999, 18:22 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00207" HREF="msg00207.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sat 04 Sep 1999, 19:24 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00210" HREF="msg00210.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article</A></strong>, Albert <a href="mailto:artfulbob#mindspring,com">artfulbob#mindspring,com</a>, Tue 07 Sep 1999, 18:02 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00190" HREF="msg00190.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Fri 03 Sep 1999, 18:17 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00156" HREF="msg00156.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article</A></strong>, Cynbe ru Taren <a href="mailto:cynbe#muq,org">cynbe#muq,org</a>, Tue 31 Aug 1999, 17:51 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00163" HREF="msg00163.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 31 Aug 1999, 19:24 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00165" HREF="msg00165.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Tue 31 Aug 1999, 19:47 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00191" HREF="msg00191.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Fri 03 Sep 1999, 18:17 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00172" HREF="msg00172.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Game design and gender: An interesting article</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 31 Aug 1999, 22:39 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>