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<LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly <<A HREF="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:11:26 -0700 (PDT)</LI>
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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Timothy O'Neill Dang wrote:
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> On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Katrina McClelan wrote:
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> > a free market economy will stabalize itself if you implement it correctly.
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> Often it will stabilize, but it might stabilize to an undesireable
> equilibrium (for us as researchers, this isn't a problem, for game
> designers it can be) or stabilize via undesirable dynamics (that's our
> concern).
Right. It's a fallacy, perpetuated by outdated economic theory, that free
markets will always reach an equilibrium point. Even if they do, there is
every reason to believe that there are a huge number of possible
equilibrium points. The Macro economics 101 standard supply vs. demand
chart simply does not reflect reality.
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> I'm assuming that the folks running bots do touch base from time to time
> (a couple times a week, say) to verify market conditions and tweak
> parameters in their bots. A market which fluctuates too fast for this
> would be a very unstable one indeed.
I don't nkow what sort of oversight you intend to have in your world, but
in ours, if someone had a bot running and only actually touched base once
or twice a week, that player would find himself repeatedly dying. If a God
asks a player a question, the God, rightfully, expects a prompt answer to
that question. If He or She doesn't get one, then the player dies. This
may not be applicable to your world, but I have found no substitute for
human oversight.
>
> But without changes such as this, the economic environment stays very
> stable except when the admins throw something new in. Under such
> conditions, one would expect market conditions to be reasonably
> predictable.
Right. My earlier comment on the crapness of neo-classical economic theory
was referring to the readl world, not a simple mud economy (which isn't
going to help you guys, I'd imagine).
--matt
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00055" HREF="msg00055.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Mon 26 Jul 1999, 17:51 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00083" HREF="msg00083.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00084" HREF="msg00084.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00035" HREF="msg00035.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>,
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Fri 23 Jul 1999, 01:02 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00010" HREF="msg00010.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 21 Jul 1999, 14:38 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00011" HREF="msg00011.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>,
Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</a>, Wed 21 Jul 1999, 16:28 GMT
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Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Thu 22 Jul 1999, 00:55 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00078" HREF="msg00078.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>,
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