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<LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly &lt;<A HREF="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:22:38 -0700 (PDT)</LI>
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On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Marian Griffith wrote:

&gt; &gt; From: Matthew Mihaly &lt;diablo#best,com&gt;
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&gt; &gt; &gt;If they complain vocally, then yes. Everyone is living in the same virtual
&gt; &gt; &gt;world,
&gt; 
&gt; Ah, but are they? I obviously did not express myself clearly enough. The
&gt; point I was trying to make was that players do not -expect- to be living
&gt; in the same virtual world. I was not pointing at a right or wrong situa-
&gt; tion but at a shattered expectations one.

Yes, clearly they are existing in the same virtual world. I agree that the
players may not expect to be living in the same virtual world, but that's
life. If you knew every detail about a game ahead of time, it'd not be a
lot of fun, to my mind.

&gt; 
&gt; This is  in fact  the problem that is expressed by 'the Stampcollectors
&gt; Dilemma' in the faq. Can, and should, you cater for all different types
&gt; of play and all different interests in the same game?

You can't, it's fundamentally impossible. You cannot, for instance, cater
simultaneously to those who want 100% rp and those who do not. Either you
have 100% rp or you don't. Numerous other examples would be easy to give
(those who want no p-killing at all, and those who want some, for
instance)


--matt




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<LI><strong><A NAME="00445" HREF="msg00445.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, 
Richard Bartle <a href="mailto:76703.3042#compuserve,com">76703.3042#compuserve,com</a>, Tue 21 Sep 1999, 23:57 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00474" HREF="msg00474.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, 
Rhonda Alexander <a href="mailto:raalexander#home,com">raalexander#home,com</a>, Thu 23 Sep 1999, 21:05 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00478" HREF="msg00478.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, 
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Fri 24 Sep 1999, 00:38 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00506" HREF="msg00506.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, 
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Mon 27 Sep 1999, 16:58 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00510" HREF="msg00510.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, 
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Mon 27 Sep 1999, 22:02 GMT
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Ilya, Game Commandos <a href="mailto:Ilya#gamecommandos,com">Ilya#gamecommandos,com</a>, Fri 24 Sep 1999, 00:40 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00484" HREF="msg00484.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, 
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Fri 24 Sep 1999, 00:57 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00486" HREF="msg00486.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, 
Laurel Fan <a href="mailto:lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu">lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu</a>, Fri 24 Sep 1999, 03:21 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00493" HREF="msg00493.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] an essay on PK</A></strong>, 
Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</a>, Fri 24 Sep 1999, 18:32 GMT
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