<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: The Best Guy on the Mud Thing --> <!--X-From-R13: Oqnz Ivttvaf <nqnzNnatry.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:00:19 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.SGI.3.96.990917164143.11831B-100000#zazu,angel.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: yam7929.2038.1720163336#smtp,free4all.co.uk --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:adam#angel,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00393.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00395.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00385.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00418.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00394">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00394">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00394">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Adam Wiggins <<A HREF="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:45:24 -0700 (PDT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Robin Cloutman wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Koster, Raph wrote: > >> The end result during beta testing appears to be that all the spells > >> suck, because all the combos were disseminated and now everyone has them. > >> People value the standing of delivering a complete spell FAQ more than > >> they value the ability to actually cast the spell. > > I'm trying to work out some way of doing a decent spell system, and this > does seem good, but the beta testing shows that it doesn't work, therefore > there needs to be something to stop people just "testing" all the > combinations in order to find something that works, you say that there are > set spells, and the spells lead to these, so it's not a basic set that you > can play with (like micropose's old game "Legend"). How about if the char > has never used the spell, then it can have catastrophic effects, such as > random explosions, or some other effect (99% detrimental ;-P), but if they > were actually taught the spell it would bypass this entirely, and if they > learnt it from a scroll then it would only be a 5% chance of it going > wrong. You could use skill tables (or whatever) so the pfile can remember > what someone knows, and if they only have a 1% (or lower) chance of > getting a spell to work through "spell research" then it's not going to be > high on their priorities (especially if there's a 10% chance it will kill > them, or a 5% chance all their stats will be exchanged, or ...). It will > also mean that although the player may know ooc what are real spells and > what are not, ic they can't take advantage of it... ;-) It seems to me that you should be okay if your spell language has enough variations. For example, let's say that you're using the normal alphabet; each letter, A through Z, is a 'rune'. Strings of these runes together (ranging from 3 to 10 characters in length) are spells. Even with only 3 characters, there are 17,576 combinations of spells possible. As soon as you go up to, say, 7 characters, there are 8,031,810,176 combinations. If it takes reasonably long to try a spell, say, one second, it would take over 250 years to try all the combinations. I would certainly go for nasty effects when you get a bad combination, however. Adds a lot of spice to the game, and makes botting the task difficult, if not impossible, if you want your character to actually stay alive. Adam _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00418" HREF="msg00418.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Wes Connell <wconnell#adhesive,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00385" HREF="msg00385.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Robin Cloutman <rycochet#free4all,co.uk></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00393.html">[MUD-Dev] META: MUD-Dev visibility</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00395.html">Re: Tactical Interest Was Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00385.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00418.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00394"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00394"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00518" HREF="msg00518.html">Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 28 Sep 1999, 14:05 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00379" HREF="msg00379.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Dundee <a href="mailto:SkeptAck#antisocial,com">SkeptAck#antisocial,com</a>, Fri 17 Sep 1999, 21:39 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00365" HREF="msg00365.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Dundee <a href="mailto:SkeptAck#antisocial,com">SkeptAck#antisocial,com</a>, Fri 17 Sep 1999, 17:49 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00385" HREF="msg00385.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Robin Cloutman <a href="mailto:rycochet#free4all,co.uk">rycochet#free4all,co.uk</a>, Fri 17 Sep 1999, 21:20 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00394" HREF="msg00394.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Sat 18 Sep 1999, 02:00 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00418" HREF="msg00418.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Wes Connell <a href="mailto:wconnell#adhesive,com">wconnell#adhesive,com</a>, Mon 20 Sep 1999, 19:21 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00397" HREF="msg00397.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Laurel Fan <a href="mailto:lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu">lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu</a>, Sat 18 Sep 1999, 02:01 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00402" HREF="msg00402.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, Mik Clarke <a href="mailto:mikclrk#ibm,net">mikclrk#ibm,net</a>, Mon 20 Sep 1999, 01:21 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00382" HREF="msg00382.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Best Guy on the Mud Thing</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#varesearch,com">claw#varesearch,com</a>, Fri 17 Sep 1999, 22:17 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>